[Pywikipedia-l] [JIRA] Issue Comment Edited: (PYWP-2) Multilingual development (jira testing)

[Purodha Blissenbach (JIRA)]

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purodha edited comment on PYWP-2 at 1/17/08 3:06 AM:
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This was a major task.

I support it,
only suggesting to maybe think about naming, rather than numbering, the messages:
- there should be an easy way to determine that a message is, or messages are,  not being used any more.
- there should be an easy way to find out, where messages are being used
(grep for a name is usually better than grep for a number)

I suggest to make the user-config variable mylang a list:
mylang='de', ''fr', 'it', 
e.g. would return German (de) unless a message was not translated, else it would try Francais (fr), else Italiano (it) and if all else fails use English by default.

I can add translations to de, ksh (native), nds (at least parts)

Should not this be treated on the pywikipediabot feature request bug tracker at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93107&atid=603141

      was (Author: purodha):
    This was a major task.

I support it,
only suggesting to maybe think about naming, rather than numbering, the messages:
- there should be an easy way to determine that a message is, or messages are,  not being used any more.
- there should be an easy way to find out, where messages are being used
(grep for a name is usually better than grep for a number)

I suggest to make the user-config variable mylang a list:
mylang='de', ''fr', 'it', 
e.g. would return German (de) unless a message was not translated, else it would try Francais (fr), else Italiano (it) and if all else fails use English by default.

I can add translations to de, ksh (native), nds (at least parts)

Should not this be trated on the pywikipediabot feature request bug tracker at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93107&atid=603141
  
> Multilingual development (jira testing)
> ---------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: PYWP-2
>                 URL: https://jira.ts.wikimedia.org/browse/PYWP-2
>             Project: pywikipedia
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Framework
>            Reporter: Merlijn van Deen
>
> (copied from the original report at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1768728&group_id=93107&atid=603141 )
> English speaking at end
> ==Francais== Texte d'origine
> Bonjour
> Je voudrais vous proposer un système qui permet de rendre le robot
> multilingue. En effet, tous les messages envoyé à la console sont
> anglophone. Or le but d'un robot est de s'adapter à la multitude des
> languages pouvant exister de la part des utilisateurs. C'est pour cela que
> je vous propose le système suivant :
> Création d'un nouveau répertoire 'lang'. Dans ce répertoire s'y
> trouverait des fichiers de type XX.py (XX étant le code ISO 639 de la
> langue). Donc ce répertoire contiendra 1 ficher par code de langue
> existant.
> Lorsque les différents programmes veulent afficher un message sur la
> console, la commande utilisé est très souvent 'wikipedia.output' ou
> 'wikipedia.input'. Le travail de cette commande serait d'appeller le
> fichier xx.py avec le numéro du message à renvoyer en paramètre, le
> choix du xx serait donnée par la variable mylang de user-config.py. le
> fichier xx.py enverrais alors le message à afficher en tenant compte des
> différentes variables de type %s (ou autre) bien entendu
> Exemple :
> dans user-config.py, j'ai "mylang = 'fr'"
> Replace.py à la ligne 375 contient la commande "wikipedia.input(u'Please
> enter the new text:')",
> Le nouveau système coderait "wikipedia.input(u'Please enter the new
> text:')" par "wikipedia.input.message(284)"
> appelerait donc lang/fr.py et lui demanderais de lui retourner le message
> n° 284 qui serait "s'il vous plais, entrez le nouveaux texte :" et le lui
> retourne.
> Voila, en esperant avoir compris ma demande.
> Je vous remercie de votre écoute
> ==English== Text translates since French by a machine translation system
> Hello
> I would like to propose you a system which allows to return the
> multilingual robot. Indeed, all the messages messenger in the console are
> English-speaking. Now the purpose of a robot is to adapt itself to the
> multitude of the languages which can exist on behalf of the users. It is
> for it that I propose you the following system:
> Creation of a new directory ' lang '. In this directory would be files of
> type XX.py (XX there being the code ISO 639 of the language). Thus this
> directory will contain 1 file by existing code of language.
> When the various programs want to post a message on the console, the order
> used is very often ' wikipedia.output ' or ' wikipedia.input '. The work of
> this order would be to call the xx.py file with the number of the message
> to be sent back in parameter, the choice of the xx would be given by the
> mylang variable to user-config.py
> The xx.py file would send then the message to be posted(shown) by taking
> into account various variables of type %s (or other) naturally
> Example:
> In user-config.py, I have " mylang = ' fr ' "
> Replace.py in the line 375 contains the command " wikipedia.input (u'
> Please enter the new text: ') ",
> The new system would code " wikipedia.input (u' Please enter the new text:
> ') "by" wikipedia.input.message (284) " call thus lang/fr.py and would ask
> it to return it the message n° 284 which would be " s'il vous plais,
> entrez le nouveaux texte : ".
> Here we are, by hoping to have understood my demand.
> I thank you for your listening

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