Thanks Yaron
I totally agree with you and do not wish this to escalate. Spamming the list is not good,
however, the use of the list to make a one-off announcement of help/support services of
two well known contributors to the community should not be associated as spam in any way.
Not only do I agree the post fits within the "spirit of the law", I will add
these two gentlemen enhance the "MediaWiki contributor spirit" by their
interactions with others in the MediaWiki community.
Karsten, one of the hardest working, MediaWiki promoting, helpful contributors to be found
in the MediaWiki Community. He does more in a week than most do in a year editing pages on
mediawiki.org and answering the talk page posts on Skins and Extensions. He has setup mail
lists for developers on Wikimedia Foundation's lists and provides MediaWiki hosting to
MediaWiki projects, eg. Skin demos to maintaining the site for the Widgets extension.
Jereon, Semantic MediaWiki developer, developer of lots of other highly useful and used
extensions, need I say more?
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: MediaWiki-l <mediawiki-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> On Behalf Of Yaron
Koren
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:55 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Introducing: Professional.Wiki
Hi,
At the risk of starting an unnecessary argument, let me say that I think this kind of
email is fine. Paid support is a form of help/support, so even though the mailing list
description doesn't specifically list consulting as one of the allowed topics, it
seems to me that it fits within the "spirit of the law", if not the letter (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law). Of course, spamming the list
is never a good idea, but a single email sent to announce a new consulting company seems
fine - and, of course, potentially useful to people looking for help.
(Full disclosure: I too am a consultant. And I know Jeroen and Karsten.)
-Yaron
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 4:41 PM Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This seems to me to be an advertisement for commercial
services that
was sent to a mailing list that is operated by a nonprofit and is
intended for MediaWiki system administrators. The description if the
mailing list is "This is a multilingual list for help/support with
running/configuring MediaWiki. It is intended for people who are
running wikis with the MediaWiki software and for announcements of new
versions, bug fixes, and security issues." It seems to me that
advertising commercial services here is well outside of the intended
purposes of this list, and is a misuse of Wikimedia Foundation resources.
Pine
(
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Wed, May 8, 2019, 13:07 Professional.Wiki <info(a)professional.wiki>
wrote:
Hello everyone,
We are happy to announce the launch of our new wiki company:
Professional.Wiki <https://professional.wiki/>.
Professional.Wiki's mission is to provide customer-focused wiki
services that are both holistic and of high quality. Because of our
strong involvement in the MediaWiki and Semantic MediaWiki worlds
over the last ten years, we can provide a unique set of professional
services to companies that have a wiki or want to use one.
Our services <https://professional.wiki/en/services>cover all your
wiki needs, including wiki hosting
<https://professional.wiki/en/hosting>,
wiki setup and creation, wiki management, training, advice,
professional support and custom development.
To celebrate our launch we provide a limited time discount on our
hosting plans. Contact us
<https://professional.wiki/en/contact>before
May 20th, 2019 to get a 20% discount on one of our hosting plans.
All our hosting plans <https://professional.wiki/en/hosting>include
free professional support and Semantic MediaWiki.
Subscribe to our mailing list
<http://professional.wiki/en/newsletter>to
receive tips and tricks, wiki news and exclusive promotions. Please
also follow us on Twitter <https://twitter.com/ProWikiExperts>.
We will remain involved in the community, contributing to the
software, documentation and discourse. Indeed, we hope to introduce
more companies to the wonders of wikis and thus strengthen both the
community and software.
For more information, please visit our website Professional.Wiki
<http://professional.wiki/>or contact us
<https://professional.wiki/en/contact>.
Karsten and Jeroen
--
Professional.Wiki – Jeroen De Dauw & Karsten Hoffmeyer GbR
Tieckstraße 24-25, 10115 Berlin
+49 (30) 55 87 42 65
info(a)professional.wiki
https://professional.wiki/
USt-IdNr. DE322440293
_______________________________________________
MediaWiki-l mailing list
To unsubscribe, go to:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
_______________________________________________
MediaWiki-l mailing list
To unsubscribe, go to:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
--
WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting ·
http://wikiworks.com
_______________________________________________
MediaWiki-l mailing list
To unsubscribe, go to:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l