[Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 70, Issue 20 Re:Erros

mihai er.mihai at gmail.com
Mon Jul 13 18:38:32 UTC 2009


Why do I have to restore a database backup?

I repeat my previous issue, this message appears in 2 special pages (
http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Lonelypagesand,
http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Deadendpages<http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Deadendpages.>
):

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the
software. The last attempted database query was:

(SQL query hidden) from within function "". MySQL returned error "1104: The
SELECT would examine more than MAX_JOIN_SIZE rows; check your WHERE and use
SET SQL_BIG_SELECTS=1 or SET SQL_MAX_JOIN_SIZE=# if the SELECT is okay
(localhost)".

Except for those 2 special pages, the entire mediawiki site works well.

Thanks,
Mihai

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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:37:51 +0200
> From: "Farkas, Illes" <fij at elte.hu>
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Encyclopedia Britannica open contribution site
> To: mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org
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> Hello,
> Do you happen to know the present URL of the site
> http://www.britannica.com/bps/home mentioned in the article "Encyclopaedia
> Britannica To Follow Modified Wikipedia Model" (
> http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2008/06/ency/) ?
>
> Shall I post question to a different list?
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestion
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:08:41 +0200
> From: Jean-Marc van Leerdam <j.m.van.leerdam at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Login page not showing
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
>        <mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <4e4d410b0907120808v6e7220f5pe0a063a4b4dcd61e at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi, PM Poon,
>
>
> 2009/7/10 Ekompute .info <ekompute at gmail.com>:
> > Thank you Jim, for taking the trouble to show me the relevant page. Even
> my
> > Firefox has problems. The pages in the main namespace looks okay but not
> in
> > the other name spaces like Mediawiki and Template, for example. I guess
> my
> > skin really do need a complete overhaul, although I have done three
> > different versions.
> >
>
> Did you base your skin on Monobook? In that case, perhaps the
> explanation I give on [1] can help you find out where the problem
> lies. The page also has references to wikimedia and other
> theme/skinning related sites.
>
> There is some weird sizing happening on your site when using IE
> (widening the screen will only increase the width of the page even
> more, adding a scrollbar and stretching the content apart...). The top
> menu also doesn't show in IE (it is projected on top of the main
> navigation portlet.
>
> [1] http://about42.nl/wiki/Monobook_CSS_Explained
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Jean-Marc
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:24:04 +0800
> From: "Ekompute .info" <ekompute at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Login page not showing
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
>        <mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <1c13c3ab0907120924i70472bb3l9db2fb25f4ed8d98 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi Jean-Marc, thank you for your response. I did follow your advice and
> managed to learn a thing or two. However, I still have some problems as
> sometimes when I changed certain things, other things move "without"
> apparent reason. Anyway, I tried many configurations and  managed to
> "solve"
> the login page problem, as you can see at this
> page<http://dummipedia.org/Special:UserLogin>,
> using IE6. I still don't understand why this particular version works, LOL.
> However, the red links are not showing in the p-cactions bar (2nd bar below
> logo, right at the top) although it works for the personal toolbar:
>
> a.new, #p-personal a.new, #p-cactions a.new {
>    color: #ba0000;
> }
>
> Both bars are defined by the above statements, so it is rather surprising
> that one works and not the other. I would be glad if you or anyone can
> assist me as there is no way at the moment for me, or anyone for that
> matter, to know whether the pages are empty.
>
> PM Poon
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Jean-Marc van Leerdam <
> j.m.van.leerdam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, PM Poon,
> >
> >
> > 2009/7/10 Ekompute .info <ekompute at gmail.com>:
> > > Thank you Jim, for taking the trouble to show me the relevant page.
> Even
> > my
> > > Firefox has problems. The pages in the main namespace looks okay but
> not
> > in
> > > the other name spaces like Mediawiki and Template, for example. I guess
> > my
> > > skin really do need a complete overhaul, although I have done three
> > > different versions.
> > >
> >
> > Did you base your skin on Monobook? In that case, perhaps the
> > explanation I give on [1] can help you find out where the problem
> > lies. The page also has references to wikimedia and other
> > theme/skinning related sites.
> >
> > There is some weird sizing happening on your site when using IE
> > (widening the screen will only increase the width of the page even
> > more, adding a scrollbar and stretching the content apart...). The top
> > menu also doesn't show in IE (it is projected on top of the main
> > navigation portlet.
> >
> > [1] http://about42.nl/wiki/Monobook_CSS_Explained
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jean-Marc
> > --
> > .       ___
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> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:59:59 +0200
> From: Jean-Marc van Leerdam <j.m.van.leerdam at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Login page not showing
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
>        <mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <4e4d410b0907121359q7f1638a3n86f5d6e8510b308 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi,
>
> 2009/7/12 Ekompute .info <ekompute at gmail.com>:
> > Hi Jean-Marc, thank you for your response. I did follow your advice and
> > managed to learn a thing or two. However, I still have some problems as
> > sometimes when I changed certain things, other things move "without"
> > apparent reason. Anyway, I tried many configurations and ?managed to
> "solve"
> > the login page problem, as you can see at this
> > page<http://dummipedia.org/Special:UserLogin>,
> > using IE6. I still don't understand why this particular version works,
> LOL.
> > However, the red links are not showing in the p-cactions bar (2nd bar
> below
> > logo, right at the top) although it works for the personal toolbar:
> >
> > a.new, #p-personal a.new, #p-cactions a.new {
> > ? ?color: #ba0000;
> > }
> >
> > Both bars are defined by the above statements, so it is rather surprising
> > that one works and not the other. I would be glad if you or anyone can
> > assist me as there is no way at the moment for me, or anyone for that
> > matter, to know whether the pages are empty.
> >
>
> Using FF WebDeveloper plugin shows that the .new is applied to the
> <li>, not to the <a>, therefor the css selection is not done. For
> example, hovering on the Video tab on the main page gives
>
> html > body .mediawiki ltr ns-0 ns-subject
> page-Free_Simplified_Online_Encyclopedia skin-nuskin > div
> #globalWrapper > div #column-one > div #p-cactions .portlet > div
> .pBody > ul > li #ca-video .new > a
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Jean-Marc
> --
> .       ___
> .  @@  // \\      "De Chelonian Mobile"
> . (_,\/ \_/ \     TortoiseSVN
> .   \ \_/_\_/>    The coolest Interface to (Sub)Version Control
> .   /_/   \_\     http://tortoisesvn.net
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:40:02 +0800
> From: "Ekompute .info" <ekompute at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Login page not showing
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
>        <mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <1c13c3ab0907121440y66b6225bn656a383915762caf at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi Jean-Marc, thank you once again for your response and for taking the
> trouble to help me out. I have checked my main.css but could not find the
> problem that you mentioned. I have posted the contents of the main.css at
> Dummipedia.com <http://dummipedia.com/MediaWiki:Main.css> and will be glad
> if you can help me pinpoint the problem.
>
> PM Poon
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Jean-Marc van Leerdam <
> j.m.van.leerdam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > 2009/7/12 Ekompute .info <ekompute at gmail.com>:
> > > Hi Jean-Marc, thank you for your response. I did follow your advice and
> > > managed to learn a thing or two. However, I still have some problems as
> > > sometimes when I changed certain things, other things move "without"
> > > apparent reason. Anyway, I tried many configurations and  managed to
> > "solve"
> > > the login page problem, as you can see at this
> > > page<http://dummipedia.org/Special:UserLogin>,
> > > using IE6. I still don't understand why this particular version works,
> > LOL.
> > > However, the red links are not showing in the p-cactions bar (2nd bar
> > below
> > > logo, right at the top) although it works for the personal toolbar:
> > >
> > > a.new, #p-personal a.new, #p-cactions a.new {
> > >    color: #ba0000;
> > > }
> > >
> > > Both bars are defined by the above statements, so it is rather
> surprising
> > > that one works and not the other. I would be glad if you or anyone can
> > > assist me as there is no way at the moment for me, or anyone for that
> > > matter, to know whether the pages are empty.
> > >
> >
> > Using FF WebDeveloper plugin shows that the .new is applied to the
> > <li>, not to the <a>, therefor the css selection is not done. For
> > example, hovering on the Video tab on the main page gives
> >
> > html > body .mediawiki ltr ns-0 ns-subject
> > page-Free_Simplified_Online_Encyclopedia skin-nuskin > div
> > #globalWrapper > div #column-one > div #p-cactions .portlet > div
> > .pBody > ul > li #ca-video .new > a
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jean-Marc
> > --
> > .       ___
> > .  @@  // \\      "De Chelonian Mobile"
> > . (_,\/ \_/ \     TortoiseSVN
> > .   \ \_/_\_/>    The coolest Interface to (Sub)Version Control
> > .   /_/   \_\     http://tortoisesvn.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:50:28 +0300
> From: mihai <er.mihai at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Errors
> To: mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Message-ID:
>        <825b2d240907122350h1b33fe17u95f2b852d44aca7e at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi,
> I have an error on my own wiki http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro. The error
> appears in 2 cases
> http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Lonelypagesand
> http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Deadendpages. You can see the
> version of the soft used
> http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Version
> .
>
> A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the
> software. The last attempted database query was:
>
>    (SQL query hidden)
>
> from within function "". MySQL returned error "1104: The SELECT would
> examine more than MAX_JOIN_SIZE rows; check your WHERE and use SET
> SQL_BIG_SELECTS=1 or SET SQL_MAX_JOIN_SIZE=# if the SELECT is okay
> (localhost)".
>
>
> My wiki is hosted and I don't know what to say to host in order to
> eliminate
> the error.
>
> Thanks,
> Mihai
> http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:52:06 +0800
> From: "Ekompute .info" <ekompute at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Errors
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
>        <mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <1c13c3ab0907130052i5d51cc4bm726138e066ce93c9 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Oh dear... guess you need to restore a copy of your database backup. The
> webhost is not responsible, so there is practically nothing much you can
> say
> to them. If you don't have a copy, check with them as fast as possible as
> they may have a temporary backup which is replaced daily. If you wait too
> long, they may have replaced their backup with the latest corrupted copy.
>
> PM Poon
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM, mihai <er.mihai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I have an error on my own wiki http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro. The error
> > appears in 2 cases
> > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Lonelypagesand
> > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Deadendpages. You can see
> the
> > version of the soft used
> > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Version
> > .
> >
> > A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in
> the
> > software. The last attempted database query was:
> >
> >    (SQL query hidden)
> >
> > from within function "". MySQL returned error "1104: The SELECT would
> > examine more than MAX_JOIN_SIZE rows; check your WHERE and use SET
> > SQL_BIG_SELECTS=1 or SET SQL_MAX_JOIN_SIZE=# if the SELECT is okay
> > (localhost)".
> >
> >
> > My wiki is hosted and I don't know what to say to host in order to
> > eliminate
> > the error.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mihai
> > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:13:07 +0900
> From: Henny Savenije <webmaster at henny-savenije.pe.kr>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Errors
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
>        <mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> On most cPanel servers the server makes a daily, weekly and monthly
> backup. If you're on a cpanel server ask them to replace first the
> daily copy and if that doesn't work the weekly and so on.
>
>
> At 04:52 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
> >Oh dear... guess you need to restore a copy of your database backup. The
> >webhost is not responsible, so there is practically nothing much you can
> say
> >to them. If you don't have a copy, check with them as fast as possible as
> >they may have a temporary backup which is replaced daily. If you wait too
> >long, they may have replaced their backup with the latest corrupted copy.
> >
> >PM Poon
> >
> >On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM, mihai <er.mihai at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have an error on my own wiki http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro. The
> error
> > > appears in 2 cases
> > > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Lonelypagesand
> > > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Deadendpages. You can see
> the
> > > version of the soft used
> > > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Version
> > > .
> > >
> > > A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in
> the
> > > software. The last attempted database query was:
> > >
> > >    (SQL query hidden)
> > >
> > > from within function "". MySQL returned error "1104: The SELECT would
> > > examine more than MAX_JOIN_SIZE rows; check your WHERE and use SET
> > > SQL_BIG_SELECTS=1 or SET SQL_MAX_JOIN_SIZE=# if the SELECT is okay
> > > (localhost)".
> > >
> > >
> > > My wiki is hosted and I don't know what to say to host in order to
> > > eliminate
> > > the error.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mihai
> > > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> >_______________________________________________
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> http://www.oldKorea.henny-savenije.pe.kr Old Korea in pictures
> http://www.british.henny-savenije.pe.kr A British encounter in Pusan
> (1797)
> http://www.genealogy.henny-savenije.pe.kr/ Genealogy
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>
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>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:19:53 +0800
> From: "Ekompute .info" <ekompute at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Errors
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
>        <mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hi Henny Savenije, I think the practice differs from webhost to webhost. I
> was once asked to pay US$28.75 to restore a backup (without guarantee) by
> my
> previous webhost, Siteground. Apparently, they kept 2 daily backups at any
> one time. The two backups turned out to be corrupted and yet, they said I
> still have to pay.
>
> PM Poon
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Henny Savenije <
> webmaster at henny-savenije.pe.kr> wrote:
>
> > On most cPanel servers the server makes a daily, weekly and monthly
> > backup. If you're on a cpanel server ask them to replace first the
> > daily copy and if that doesn't work the weekly and so on.
> >
> >
> > At 04:52 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
> > >Oh dear... guess you need to restore a copy of your database backup. The
> > >webhost is not responsible, so there is practically nothing much you can
> > say
> > >to them. If you don't have a copy, check with them as fast as possible
> as
> > >they may have a temporary backup which is replaced daily. If you wait
> too
> > >long, they may have replaced their backup with the latest corrupted
> copy.
> > >
> > >PM Poon
> > >
> > >On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM, mihai <er.mihai at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have an error on my own wiki http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro. The
> > error
> > > > appears in 2 cases
> > > > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Lonelypagesand
> > > > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Deadendpages. You can
> see
> > the
> > > > version of the soft used
> > > > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Special:Version
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > > A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug
> in
> > the
> > > > software. The last attempted database query was:
> > > >
> > > >    (SQL query hidden)
> > > >
> > > > from within function "". MySQL returned error "1104: The SELECT would
> > > > examine more than MAX_JOIN_SIZE rows; check your WHERE and use SET
> > > > SQL_BIG_SELECTS=1 or SET SQL_MAX_JOIN_SIZE=# if the SELECT is okay
> > > > (localhost)".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My wiki is hosted and I don't know what to say to host in order to
> > > > eliminate
> > > > the error.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mihai
> > > > http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > MediaWiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > >MediaWiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> >                   _   _
> >                 (o) (o)
> >      oOOO----(_)----OOOo---
> > Henny (Lee Hae Kang)
> > -----------------------------
> > http://www.henny-savenije.pe.kr Portal to all my sites
> > http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr (in English) Feel free
> > to discover Korea with Hendrick Hamel (1653-1666)
> > http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr/indexk2.htm In Korean
> > http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr/Dutch In Dutch
> > http://www.vos.henny-savenije.pe.kr Frits Vos Article about Witsen
> > and Eibokken and his first Korean-Dutch dictionary
> > http://www.cartography.henny-savenije.pe.kr (in English) Korea
> > through Western Cartographic eyes
> > http://www.hwasong.henny-savenije.pe.kr Hwasong the fortress in Suwon
> > http://www.oldKorea.henny-savenije.pe.kr Old Korea in pictures
> > http://www.british.henny-savenije.pe.kr A British encounter in Pusan
> > (1797)
> > http://www.genealogy.henny-savenije.pe.kr/ Genealogy
> > http://www.henny-savenije.pe.kr/phorum Bulletin board for Korean studies
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