[Mediawiki-l] Meaningful stats for MediaWiki

Sun Oct 26 14:29:03 UTC 2008

Regarding the statistics for MW, I use Google Analytics via this extension:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_Analytics_Integration

Within Google Analytics, I set up "Goals" for article edits, new account
creation, and user login. This tells me the % of visits that result in an
action being taken rather than just passive reading. In addition, it tells
me the referrer information (site, search engine, keyword, etc) as well as
other visitor data for each goal so I can tell where my most "likely to
contribute" visitors are coming from.

Good luck!

andrew at richmondwiki.org

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>   1. Re: Using export/import instead of upgrading (Brion Vibber)
>   2. Re: Using export/import instead of upgrading (Tim Starling)
>   3. Re: Using export/import instead of upgrading (Tim Starling)
>   4. Upgrading to current release (Skins question) (K. Peachey)
>   5. Re: Meaningful stats for MediaWiki (Matthias Korn)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:04:59 -0700
> From: Brion Vibber <brion at wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Using export/import instead of upgrading
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> Jan Steinman wrote:
> > Anyone have any good strategies going from 1.3 to current? I'm
> > planning on making a complete copy, accessed from a new URL, and
> > trying the upgrade on that. But I'm doubtful that such an upgrade will
> > be fruitful.
>
> 1) Back up your database
>
> 2) Grab the current code and put it in place of your old code
>
> 3) Follow the upgrade instructions.
>
>
> The updater should update the database automatically from any MediaWiki
> installation version 1.2 or later. The one serious exception to this is
> that installations from prior to 1.5 which used Latin-1 encoding instead
> of UTF-8 may require a separate character set conversion first. (To add
> a little to the confusion, this issue is dependent on the $wgUseLatin1
> config variable in your LocalSettings.php, _not_ the "character set"
> setting on MySQL.)
>
> Otherwise, there are no *known* problems that should prevent you from
> upgrading directly from 1.3 to 1.13, as long as your PHP, MySQL etc are
> current.
>
> If you actually do encounter an error while following the standard
> upgrade procedure, we want to find out about it so we can fix it! Please
> save the *exact output* from the updater *at the time you first ran it*,
> which should show any error conditions encountered during the update.
>
> And don't forget to back everything up first. ;)
>
> - -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:06:16 +1100
> From: Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Using export/import instead of upgrading
> To: mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org
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> Jan Steinman wrote:
> > I believe the OP suggested export/import because they had fallen way
> > behind, and lacked confidence in an upgrade process that is generally
> > designed for Wikipedia's needs of strictly sequential incremental
> > upgrades.
> >
> > I am in the same situation, running 1.3. Short of upgrading to 1.4,
> > then 1.5, then 1.6... I don't believe this posting really addresses
> > strategies for someone who is way behind to "catch up." The further
> > you are behind, the more likely something will break, no matter how
> > carefully one follows the instructions for upgrading from 1.13.1 to
> > 1.13.2.
> >
> > Anyone have any good strategies going from 1.3 to current? I'm
> > planning on making a complete copy, accessed from a new URL, and
> > trying the upgrade on that. But I'm doubtful that such an upgrade will
> > be fruitful.
>
> I put the answer to this question in the upgrade FAQ, and since then I've
> answered it about another 5 times on mediawiki-l.
>
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#Upgrading
>
> I don't know how many more times I'm going to have to say it.
>
> Upgrades for 1.3 to 1.13 were tested automatically prior to the release of
> 1.13 using an automated upgrade test:
>
> <
> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/release-tools/upgradeTest.py?view=markup
> >
>
> There are no open bug reports regarding upgrading from 1.3 to 1.13. The
> vast majority of reports indicate that it works just fine.
>
> Upgrading may take a long time. Back up your wiki in case the upgrade
> script is aborted halfway through and leaves your wiki in an intermediate
> state.
>
> The upgrade script is inherently incremental. The updaters.inc file has a
> large list of database operations which have been steadily accumulating
> since the first MediaWiki release. They are run in the order in which they
> were added. Occasionally obsolete or redundant upgrades are removed. So
> running each upgrader in turn is effectively equivalent to running the
> most recent one.
>
> Some of the old upgraders had bugs. We fixed them in later major releases.
> If you run the old upgraders, you risk encountering unfixed bugs in them.
>
> Old upgraders are not supported and we will ignore bug reports against
> them. If you encounter a bug when upgrading directly from 1.3 to 1.13, we
> will fix it. If you encounter a bug when upgrading from 1.3 to 1.4, we
> will ignore you.
>
> -- Tim Starling
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:29:21 +1100
> From: Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Using export/import instead of upgrading
> To: mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org
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> Jan Steinman wrote:
> >> From: Daniel Friesen <dan_the_man at telus.net>
> >>
> >> People complain about issues cause they don't follow instructions...
> >
> > (Much good advice about how to do incremental upgrades clipped...)
> >
> >> Remember Wikipedia? Wikimedia runs off MediaWiki and is being
> >> constantly
> >> upgraded. If the upgrade process wasn't handled right then you'd see
> >> Wikipedia broken all the time.
> >
> > I believe the OP suggested export/import because they had fallen way
> > behind, and lacked confidence in an upgrade process that is generally
> > designed for Wikipedia's needs of strictly sequential incremental
> > upgrades.
>
> One more thing: the upgrader is NOT used by Wikimedia and is not designed
> for it. We've never run the upgrader on Wikimedia while I've been around.
> The upgrader is designed for small wikis and is aimed at a general
> non-technical user audience.
>
> To upgrade Wikimedia wikis, we run the SQL patch files directly, or write
> special replication-friendly scripts. We aim for at most a few minutes of
> read-only time even for a huge wiki like the English Wikipedia, and that
> goal sometimes requires quite a bit of planning and effort to achieve.
>
> -- Tim Starling
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:10:45 +1000
> From: "K. Peachey" <p858snake at yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Upgrading to current release (Skins question)
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> I'm planning on upgrading from a fairly old install (pre 1.11.0) and
> we have a skin coded/based on the default monobook, will we need
> anything to make this compatible with the latest install?
>
> -Peachey
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:59:52 +0100
> From: Matthias Korn <matsch at rockinchina.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Meaningful stats for MediaWiki
> To: mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org
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> Well, I tried FireStats now. It doesn't really provide anything I
> didn't already know.
>
> What is everyone using for their statistic needs?
>
> Maybe their is a possibility to exploit the Extra Section feature of
> AWStats!?
>
> Regards,
> matsch
>
>
> Am Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:02:12 +0200
> schrieb Matthias Korn <matsch at rockinchina.com>:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > what is a good approach for meaningful MediaWiki statistics?
> > They should show which pages are accessed frequently and over time,
> > maybe also edits and everything else relevant to a MediaWiki
> > installation.
> >
> > Normal log file analysers don't cope with particularities of
> > MediaWiki.
> >
> > I saw this extension, but from the demo it doesn't look very
> > promising: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:FireStats
> >
> > Thanks,
> > matsch
> >
>
>
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