[Mediawiki-l] value displayed by {{NUMBEROFEDITS}} doesn't change after edits

Derrick Farnell derrick.farnell at gmail.com
Sun Jun 1 08:57:49 UTC 2008


I see - thanks for explaining that, which also explains why disabling the
parsercache isn't a good idea if you have more than a few users using the
wiki at the same time.


On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 8:46 AM, DanTMan <dan_the_man at telus.net> wrote:

> The parsercache is a cache which saves the parsed state of a page after
> MW has parsed it, and it's retrieved from the cache instead of being
> reparsed on each page view, up until the page is saved again, a or the
> job que or a user purges it.
>
> Believe it or not, but MediaWiki's parser is NOT fast. It is quite
> inefficient, it's a big kludge made up of a huge pile of regexes and
> other stuff. Not to mention that things like #ifexist and other things
> end up doing a costly query to the database. Which in itself is
> something that can quickly slow down a site by doing to many of those on
> every page view.
>
> ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of:
> -The Gaiapedia (http://gaia.wikia.com)
> -Wikia ACG on Wikia.com (http://wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_ACG)
> -and Wiki-Tools.com (http://wiki-tools.com)
>
> Derrick Farnell wrote:
> > I've just been told that having "$wgEnableParserCache => false;" in
> > LocalSettings.php will significantly slow-down the site if it ever has
> more
> > than a few users, which is why parsercaching exists in the first place -
> not
> > that I know what 'parsercaching' is myself!
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Derrick Farnell <
> derrick.farnell at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Great.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Darren VanBuren <onekopaka at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> No, there should be no downsides.
> >>> On May 31, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Derrick Farnell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> P.S. Are there any downsides, of any kind, of having
> >>>> "$wgEnableParserCache =
> >>>> false;" in LocalSettings?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Derrick Farnell <
> >>>>
> >>> derrick.farnell at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yes, I've tried it and not noticed a reduction in speed. Thanks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Darren VanBuren
> >>>>> <onekopaka at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, you can turn the parsers Cache off by setting that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have done such, and it makes no difference in speed. That's how
> >>>>>> fast
> >>>>>> the MediaWiki parser is.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On May 31, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Schneelocke wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2008/5/31, Derrick Farnell <derrick.farnell at gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks - is there any way to ensure that this does not happen for
> >>>>>>>> any user,
> >>>>>>>> regardless of their preferences settings? Also, would that setting
> >>>>>>>> mean that
> >>>>>>>> the site will run slower?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think you can turn it off by setting $wgEnableParserCache =
> >>>>>>> false;
> >>>>>>> in your LocalSettings.php (but I've never tried that myself).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And yes, it likely will make the site run slower, although by how
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> whether it'll be noticeable very much depends.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
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