[Mediawiki-l] [SPAM] Re: Looking for MW Business Users

[Dave Sigafoos]

Mike .. that was one of the funniest emails I ever read .. On first
blush I thought 'Hey .. this guy is serious' but then after rereading
and writing a flame that might have brought the net down itself I got
it.  It was the 'hyperbole' that I had missed.  Of course that got me to
understand that this was some kind of satirical look at business from
that 'apple kid' character on the commercials.  As they say .. thanks I
needed that <g>

>>" This will sound more negative than I intend, but bear with me - I'll
use 
a bit of hyperbole to make a point"

The problem with hyperbole is that it usually misses the mark completely
<g>

And don't take this wrong <G>

>>"The business community has been getting a free ride on Internet stuff

for a long time now.  They have done little to contribute to the ... "

They've done little to contribute .. I can only assume that this was
meant as comic relief.

OR 

>>"I see a lot of demand for the kind of secure/restricted/whatever 
versions of wikis for business.  I think that the business community 
should get together and _pay_ for such a system and then sell it to .. "

When I do something for any of my clients I get paid for it.  If I make
an extension either it is my time or a clients.  In either SOMEONE is
paying for it.  

This idea that businesses who give time/resources to Open Source
projects really aren't paying is nonsense.  I don't know about you but I
get paid well for what I do.  If I spend my time (which most of this is)
then I am paying .. if I get paid by my clients then they are paying.

As my daddy always said .. TNSTAAFL


DSig
David Tod Sigafoos | SANMAR Corporation

 


-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Daly
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 14:33
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] [SPAM] Re: Looking for MW Business Users

Dave Sigafoos wrote:

> a location where problems that have come up trying to do 'business'
> things with MW are addressed.  As mentioned in my original post, these
> are things that will probably never fit into the MW/WP world.  As you
> mentioned 'access restriction', different reporting/special pages.
> Processes that 'implementors' (probably better than business?) might
> need that WikiWorld wont.


This will sound more negative than I intend, but bear with me - I'll use

a bit of hyperbole to make a point.

The business community has been getting a free ride on Internet stuff 
for a long time now.  They have done little to contribute to the 
development of the Internet, WWW or much of anything else (network and 
software- or hardware-specific companies excepted).  Yet they have been 
quick to grab onto whatever they can and warp it into something it was 
not intended to be (e.g - the WWW, a document publishing mechanism 
became a transaction processing system with kludges to HTML etc to 
support retail operations).

If the business community really needs something on the Internet, maybe 
they should put their money where their mouth is and make substantial 
contributions to the whole effort instead of taking stuff for free and 
expecting it to be modified to their wants.

----
I see a lot of demand for the kind of secure/restricted/whatever 
versions of wikis for business.  I think that the business community 
should get together and _pay_ for such a system and then sell it to 
other businesses.  Leave the wikis to the wiki users and create a 
lightweight document management system for businesses if that's what 
they really want.

Mike