[Mediawiki-l] Collaborative Translation support in MediaWiki

[Desilets, Alain]

Hi all,

This is my first post on this mailing list. Dirk Riehle sent me a copy of a recent email on this list (see below), which was talking about adding support for collaborative translation in MediaWiki. I am very interested in this topic and have written a paper about it at WikiSym 2006:

Translation the Wiki Way
* http://iit-iti.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/publications/nrc-48736_e.html

I have also implemented a simple proof of concept prototype of collaborative translation in a wiki environment. You can see a video demo of it here:

http://lizzy.iit.nrc.ca/LizzyHelp/uploads/demo_of_multilingual_LizzyWiki_features.mov

Some of us have also started a project to add this sort of translation support in popular wiki engines, starting with TikiWiki:

Cross Lingual Wiki Engine Project
* http://www.wiki-translation.com/tiki-index.php?page=Cross+Lingual+Wiki+Engine+Project&bl

We would LOVE to have people from the MediaWiki community involved!

Note that this project is hosted on a new wiki community called wiki-translation, which I and some collegues started in November to share ideas and information about translation in the new frontier of massive online collaboration:

Wiki-translation community
* http://www.wiki-translation.com/tiki-index.php

I am also thinking about putting together a workshop on wiki-translation at the WikiSym 2008 which will take place in Porto, Portugal, Sept 8-10, 2008. Again, participation from people in the MediaWiki or WikiMedia community would be great!

I am looking forward with interacting with people on this list who are interested in this topic.

Alain Désilets
National Research Council of Canada

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: driehle at gmail.com [mailto:driehle at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Dirk 
>> Riehle
>> Sent: December 18, 2007 4:58 PM
>> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list; Desilets, Alain
>> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Collaborative Translation wiki?
>>
>> You may like to look at the work of Alain Desilets who has been 
>> working on this for a while and should have some wikis/examples at 
>> hand. See
>>     
> http://iit-iti.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/personnel/desilets_alain_e.html
>   
>> Some of his work appeared in the WikiSym proceedings, see 
>> http://www.wikisym.org/ws2006/proceedings/ as well as some other 
>> places.
>>
>> I'm ccing him so he can point you directly to his work.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dirk
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2007 12:03 PM, Gabriel Millerd <gmillerd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> On Dec 18, 2007 7:16 AM, Kent S. Larsen II <kent at lusobraz.com>
>>>       
> wrote:
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>>>> Turns out that the Proofread Page extension can be used for this.
>>>> Apparently, Proofread Page is used on Wikisource for proofing
>>>>         
> scans
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>> and
>>     
>>>> entering text from images.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> I messed around four a handful of hours after feeling inspired from 
>>> that website that was linked.
>>>
>>> *I got a 'diff' like view of __TOC__ items (en on one side, fr on
>>>       
>> other other)
>>     
>>> *If the fr is missing prompt to create it, use a hack to use en as
>>>       
>> default text.
>>     
>>> *I found it much easier to have en side read only and the fr side 
>>> mundanely writeable.
>>> *I just did cheesy <form> actions to a hack that pushed the changes
>>>       
>> as
>>     
>>> individual __TOC_ edits rather than using that sexy ajax thing they 
>>> had.
>>>
>>> I can see the need for work flow being what drives how you design 
>>> this. Since I know nothing about actual translations and just did
>>>       
> the
>   
>>> raw diff edit.
>>>
>>> The editing of complete static texts vs editing living wiki content 
>>> seems quite easy. Especially with major content structure changes 
>>> where the __TOC__ will get out of whack. Make big changes to en, 
>>> potentially you could toss out the hours of work on fr.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Gabriel Millerd
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