[Mediawiki-l] [Foundation-l] Red category link is unhelpful

[Jim Wilson]

Brion Vibber wrote:
> I do hate to get in the way of a good flame war, though, so everybody
> feel free to continue fighting unproductively instead. ;)

How close are we to getting locked down?  5 minutes to midnight? 2 minutes?

There's nothing like the smell of fresh flaimbate in the morning :)

Virgil Lerubino wrote:
> It's simply true that more often than not, you'll want to just view a red
> category rather than edit it. It's still a useful page! (Unlike a red
article).

+1 Insightful

-- Jim

On 4/5/07, Virgil Ierubino <virgil.ierubino at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 04/04/07, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Two reds? What a nightmare!
>
>
> Quite! Above all, I DO NOT think we should change colours beyond what we
> have right now: blue and red. That's too beautifully simple to alter.
>
> Red links lead to edit pages. This is a convention we've established
> > in the user interface, and I don't see a great reason to change it.
> > Sure, it's a bit inconvenient clicking a category name and getting an
> > edit page, but you can still see the contents of the category.
>
>
> This is true for a seasoned user, but my proposal has newer users in mind.
> They clicked on that category link because they wanted to see its members,
> not for any other reason. If they see an edit box they won't realise the
> page still functions. They'll think it's a nonexistent page like every
> other
> red link. Yknow, if there's a category "People who died in 1845" which no
> one bothered to write a description for, someone might click it and end up
> thinking no one died in 1845!
>
> As was said by others, this is a matter of balance. Any disadvantages (and
> I
> see few) regards this change are so minimal compared to the advantages.
> It's
> simply true that more often than not, you'll want to just view a red
> category rather than edit it. It's still a useful page! (Unlike a red
> article).
>
> Virgil.
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