[Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki coding

[SilverSide]

Just realized I accidentally sent this off the list instead of on it,  
in reply to the perl/php discussion.

On May 3, 2006, at 7:58 PM, SilverSide wrote:

> I wasn't particularly planning on making this a public project;  
> much of our goal is NOT particularly putting MediaWiki in a better  
> language; as it is implementing the goals we need for our network,  
> and the porting is just something we were going to do in the  
> process so we can easily work and hack it in the future. If enough  
> people are interested, we could do the 'porting' first and work  
> with anybody interested, then release and maintain that separately  
> from our version.
>
> Really, we just want to implement some MAJOR changes to the WAY  
> mediawiki works, while keeping most of the end-user experience. For  
> instance, we want to port to perl, as has been said, and we want to  
> sort of modularize it, with separate portable modifiable modules  
> for (for instance) user authentication, or categorization  
> management, or editing, or article history; that way, these 'bits'  
> can be changed or replaced, while the central 'wiki' module would  
> merely be the hub for all of them to connect - the parser would  
> even be it's own module. Over time, we could perhaps implement  
> things to make our (whatever)wiki (no name yet, maybe MW3 or  
> something) more usable for other things - a specifically designed  
> authentication module to work with LDAP, or a parser module to use  
> *these* /markups/ _instead_ - just to throw out some ideas from  
> recent discussions on this list...
>
> Sorry, last paragraph was pure speculation, mostly we (as I said)  
> want to keep end-user experience unmodified for the first version,  
> then once we have it in a language we can WORK with (I am SICK of  
> php, no offense to those who like it, but I've been wrestling with  
> it too much over the past months) we can start implementing our  
> ideas in an incremental fashion.
>
> Back to the topic, anyway; if I could get some interest, then I  
> wouldn't mind working with some other Perl enthusiasts on the  
> initial port, then I we could keep that updated and released  
> without our modules over time; anybody interested can e-mail me  
> privately - this isn't strictly WikiMedia's MediaWiki related, so  
> let's take it off this list, k?
>
> On May 3, 2006, at 6:42 PM, Erin Spiceland wrote:
>
>> How many people are in on this and is there a plan yet? Is there a
>> central repository of ideas, methods or anything? Is there a  
>> website? I
>> own a hosting company and would be happy to provide some space if  
>> need
>> be.
>>
>> Erin
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 13:43 -0800, Elliott F. Cable wrote:
>>> Ah, I'm an idiot; forgot to specify IRC server:
>>> irc://irc.freenode.net/#enterwiki
>>>
>>> Ken (xevo) and I are in there most of the time if not 24/7 (which is
>>> the case as of right now) so if your an IRC user, just add those
>>> channels to your auto-join list and stick around, you can jump in  
>>> the
>>> conversation whenever we're discussing it. Beware, I'm a total  
>>> noob -
>>> I know wikis and the wiki concept (and mediawiki itself) very well,
>>> but when it comes to code, I'm as nib as they get (-:
>>>
>>> Xevo, however, is to be feared. Pheared, even, to use a  
>>> neologism. ~~~~
>>>
>>> On May 3, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Erin Spiceland wrote:
>>>
>>>> That sounds really exciting! Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 13:11 -0800, Elliott F. Cable wrote:
>>>>> Well, we do gaming wikis. I'm not a gamer either, used to play  
>>>>> some
>>>>> World of Warcraft, but it got ooold fast. Anyway, I'm the dude who
>>>>> does the php, but I really suck, and I happen to agree with our
>>>>> *real* techi guy that Perl is much better. We're planning to  
>>>>> sort of
>>>>> port mediawiki to perl, but it will be a very very long  
>>>>> project, and
>>>>> require a whole lot of work. Get in #enterwiki and #enterwiki- 
>>>>> tech,
>>>>> and we can talk sometime (I'll get xevo in on it too).
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 3, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Erin Spiceland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not particularly, but I'm not NOT a gamer, and I'd love some
>>>>>> information
>>>>>> about what you are planning!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 12:30 -0800, Elliott F. Cable wrote:
>>>>>>> We're possibly preparing to embark on a major project involving
>>>>>>> perl
>>>>>>> and MediaWiki - are you a gamer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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