[Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 30, Issue 17

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Today's Topics:

1. "include" mechanism in MW? (Rich Morin)
2. Tracking user logings and time in wiki (Rusel DeMaria)
3. Re: Tracking user logings and time in wiki (Iliya Kuznetsov)
4. Logo Size? (Helge H. Forstner)
5. Re: Logo Size? (Rob Church)
6. Re: "include" mechanism in MW? (Thomas Gries)
7. Graphviz extension (Karl-Otto Kirst)
8. Re: Graphviz extension (Tels)
9. Re: Graphviz extension (Karl-Otto Kirst)
10. Re: Graphviz extension (Thomas Gries)
11. Re: Graphviz extension (Tels)
12. Re: Graphviz extension (Gregory Szorc)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:35:23 -0800
From: Rich Morin 
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] "include" mechanism in MW?
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
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I am interested in adding mechanically-generated content
(e.g., text, images) to MediaWiki pages, as discussed in

http://www.cfcl.com/~rdm/weblog/archives/001002.html

I think that the cleanest way to do this might be to let the
user put in an "include" request for some specified content.
A program could then note the request and generate a file,
which MW could fold into the page whenever it was displayed.

Problem is, I don't know what provision (if any) MW has for
including files, etc. I've looked over Help:Contents and
the extensions list, but I haven't recognized anything that
seems relevant. Any pointers would be appreciated.

-r
-- 
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Technical editing and writing, programming, and web development


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:25:26 -0800
From: "Rusel DeMaria" 
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Tracking user logings and time in wiki
To: "'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'"

Message-ID: <000001c6460a$c25c6450$0202a8c0 at DeMaria>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Is it possible to track a user's activity (other than watched pages, of
course) to see who has logged in and how much time they have spent in the
wiki?



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:51:43 +0300 (MSK)
From: "Iliya Kuznetsov" 
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Tracking user logings and time in wiki
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Message-ID: <44147BCF.000003.20593 at webmail9.yandex.ru>
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>Is it possible to track a user's activity (other than watched pages, of
>course) to see who has logged in and how much time they have spent in the
>wiki?

It's very interesting for me too, but if there is possibility to track user watches -- good too.

-- 
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chumpa at yandex.ru icq 122393064



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:58:56 +0100
From: "Helge H. Forstner" 
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Logo Size?
To: "'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'"

Message-ID: <003001c6460f$65e63fc0$24f6a951 at fbbws>
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Hi everyone,

two more questions:

1. My logo is showing in the left corner, but much to big.
How do I change the size?

2. Is there any FAQ or Documentation for Beginners available?

Maybe one FAQ for the Sysop and a FAQ for the Users?


rgds
Harry








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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:02:05 +0000
From: "Rob Church" 
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Logo Size?
To: hf at fly-by-byte.de, "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"

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1. The logo needs to be about 135px square.

2. There are two FAQs, mostly administrative;
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ and
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:FAQ. Meta also features a complete
user's guide. How much of that is correct or up-to-date is
questionable.


Rob Church

On 12/03/06, Helge H. Forstner wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> two more questions:
>
> 1. My logo is showing in the left corner, but much to big.
> How do I change the size?
>
> 2. Is there any FAQ or Documentation for Beginners available?
>
> Maybe one FAQ for the Sysop and a FAQ for the Users?
>
>
> rgds
> Harry
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:25:53 +0100
From: Thomas Gries 
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] "include" mechanism in MW?
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list

Message-ID: <441483D1.5040208 at tgries.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Rich Morin schrieb:
> I am interested in adding mechanically-generated content
> (e.g., text, images) to MediaWiki pages, as discussed in
>
> http://www.cfcl.com/~rdm/weblog/archives/001002.html
>
> I think that the cleanest way to do this might be to let the
> user put in an "include" request for some specified content.
> A program could then note the request and generate a file,
> which MW could fold into the page whenever it was displayed.
>
> Problem is, I don't know what provision (if any) MW has for
> including files, etc. I've looked over Help:Contents and
> the extensions list, but I haven't recognized anything that
> seems relevant. Any pointers would be appreciated.
>
> -r
> 
Dear Rich,

I published a framework for this under the title

"Getlets: extending the interwiki concept beyond any limits"

during the First International Wikimedia Conference 2005 04.-08.08.2005 
in Frankfurt/Main, Germany.

Please find this presentation in the Proceedings which location has 
recently moved to [1]
Presentation slides are here [2];

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Transwiki:Wikimania05/Workshop-TG3
[2] 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/en/a/a9/Wikimania05_Workshop_TG3.pdf
[3] http://sourceforge.net/projects/getlets






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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:37:31 +0100
From: "Karl-Otto Kirst" 

Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Graphviz extension
To: "Mediawiki-L" 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hallo,

I would like to integrate "Graphviz" extension in ZUM-Wiki
(www.zum.de/wiki).

I've read some instructions about it, on the following sites:
http://www.graphviz.org/
http://www.wickle.com/wikis/index.php/Graphviz_extension
telling:
you must copy Graphviz.php to $mediawiki/extensions directory and add this
line to LocalSettings.php: include("extensions/Graphviz.php");
Also you must set $wgGraphVizSettings->dotCommand = "/usr/local/bin/dot";
to accomplish your installation of graphviz.
http://www.wickle.com/wiki/index.php/Windows_Graphviz_Installation_Instructi
ons
telling:
include("extensions/Graphviz.php");
$wgGraphVizSettings->dotCommand = "C:\\Program
Files\\ATT\\Graphviz\\bin\\dot.exe";
http://www.schwiki.de/wiki/SchWiki:Graphviz

I've found the Graphviz.php on:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mwextensions/mediawikiextensions/

I tried to install "Graphviz" extension, but didn't have success.

My three questions are:

1. Obviously, I need to install Graphviz, before I can install the Graphviz
extension: Where and how do I have to install Graphviz?

2. Which text do I habe to include exactly in LocalSettings.php?

3. Which other things do I habe to do, to be able to use Graphviz extension
in MediaWiki?

Regards
Karl Kirst



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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:52:07 +0100
From: Tels 
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Graphviz extension
To: mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org
Message-ID: <200603122152.17333 at bloodgate.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Moin Karl,

On Sunday 12 March 2006 21:37, Karl-Otto Kirst wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I would like to integrate "Graphviz" extension in ZUM-Wiki
> (www.zum.de/wiki).

I cannot help you with the Graphviz extension (at least not much), but I 
can help you installing the graph extension, which is, IMHO (but I am 
biased :) much better suited for a wiki:

http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/
http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/manual/

If you need help with that, don't hesitate to email me :D

Best wishes,

Tels

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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:46:14 +0100
From: "Karl-Otto Kirst" 

Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Graphviz extension
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"

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Moin Tels,

> > I would like to integrate "Graphviz" extension in ZUM-Wiki
> > (www.zum.de/wiki).
>
> I cannot help you with the Graphviz extension (at least not much), but I
> can help you installing the graph extension, which is, IMHO (but I am
> biased :) much better suited for a wiki:
>
> http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/
> http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/manual/

thanks. But "Graph" seems not to offer the same graphical possibilities like
"Graphviz" does.

Regards
Karl



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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:54:51 +0100
From: Thomas Gries 
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Graphviz extension
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list

Message-ID: <441498AB.2030306 at tgries.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Karl-Otto Kirst schrieb:
> I would like to integrate "Graphviz" extension in ZUM-Wiki
> (www.zum.de/wiki).
>
> I've read some instructions about it, on the following sites:
> http://www.graphviz.org/
> http://www.wickle.com/wikis/index.php/Graphviz_extension
here are the installation instructions:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Graphviz

Wikinaut


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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:35:11 +0100
From: Tels 
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Graphviz extension
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list

Message-ID: <200603122335.11422 at bloodgate.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Moin Karl,

On Sunday 12 March 2006 22:46, Karl-Otto Kirst wrote:
> Moin Tels,
>
> > > I would like to integrate "Graphviz" extension in ZUM-Wiki
> > > (www.zum.de/wiki).
> >
> > I cannot help you with the Graphviz extension (at least not much),
> > but I can help you installing the graph extension, which is, IMHO
> > (but I am biased :) much better suited for a wiki:
> >
> > http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/
> > http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/manual/
>
> thanks. But "Graph" seems not to offer the same graphical possibilities
> like "Graphviz" does.

Just for the record, it does. It offers even more :D

(And even if some output formats cannot support them, you can always 
output graphviz code and use dot to render the image, which means 
Graph::Easy should supports anything that graphviz can, plus some more 
things are made easier for the user)

I am writing a F.A.Q. entry now to clear this up once and for all.

Best wishes,

Tels

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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:57:00 -0500
From: Gregory Szorc 
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Graphviz extension
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list

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Speaking of Graphviz, some might be interested in SpecialGraphs 
(http://opensource.case.edu/svn/MediaWikiHacks/extensions/ 
SpecialGraphs/SpecialGraphs.php). It has Graphviz output and can do 
such things as:

http://wiki.case.edu/CaseWiki:Categories
http://wiki.case.edu/Category:People

There are a few minor quirks, but it shows the potential of Graphviz 
in wikis.

Gregory Szorc
gregory.szorc at case.edu


On Mar 12, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Tels wrote:

> Moin Karl,
>
> On Sunday 12 March 2006 22:46, Karl-Otto Kirst wrote:
>> Moin Tels,
>>
>>>> I would like to integrate "Graphviz" extension in ZUM-Wiki
>>>> (www.zum.de/wiki).
>>>
>>> I cannot help you with the Graphviz extension (at least not much),
>>> but I can help you installing the graph extension, which is, IMHO
>>> (but I am biased :) much better suited for a wiki:
>>>
>>> http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/
>>> http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/manual/
>>
>> thanks. But "Graph" seems not to offer the same graphical 
>> possibilities
>> like "Graphviz" does.
>
> Just for the record, it does. It offers even more :D
>
> (And even if some output formats cannot support them, you can always
> output graphviz code and use dot to render the image, which means
> Graph::Easy should supports anything that graphviz can, plus some more
> things are made easier for the user)
>
> I am writing a F.A.Q. entry now to clear this up once and for all.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tels
>
> -- 
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> Visit my photo gallery at http://bloodgate.com/photos/
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>
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