Thanks a lot. Very good information.
From: "Felix Andrews"
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Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Stop hijacking my question!
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:33:33 +1000
Standard practice would be to put Category:Java_Arrays as a
subcategory in both Category:Java and Category:Arrays. You can tag
articles about "java arrays" using [[Category:Java_Arrays]], you don't
need to explicitly tag it with [[Category:Arrays]] also.
Felix
On 8/29/06, Yusuf Mohsinally <yusufm(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Jono,
Stop hijacking my question. If your reader "only" lets you reply, get it
fixed. My question went unanswered because you replied to my posting and
deleted my message. And your last 10 messages were trying to change the
logo? Come on, get serious, and stop spamming the message board!
I would appreciate if someone would read my previous question below.
Thanks.
>Thanks. I think I will go with articles being in the main namespace. I
had
>a
>question about categories based on this decision though...
>
>I will create top level categories like Java, C, Perl, etc. Now
thinking
>about a category like Arrays, which is a
general concept to all
language,
>but also contains specific info for each.
>
>As I read from documentation, you can create a category called Array,
and
>you can make one or more categories as it
parent. But you can't make
unique
>sub cateogories each called Array, that fit
under a single parent
>category... So you can't really create somethign like the following,
where
>if you click on each "Array"
category you only get articles for each
>specific programming language:
>
>Java
>---Arrays <- not only Java Arrays information (common category,
contains
>all Arrays articles)
>
>Perl
>---Arrays <- not only Perl Arrays information (common category,
contains
>All Arrays articles)
>
>I think the only way to be able to select a category and get specific
>programming language Array information is to create unique Arrays
>categories
>like:
>
>Java
>----- Java_Arrays <- now this could contain only java arrays
articles.
and also have a general Arrays category which is tagged to all Arrays
articles as well?
Is it good practice to be creating prog lang specific categories
(Java_Arrays) and also a general Arrays category?
Thanks.
> >From: "Morten Blaabjerg" <morten(a)crewscut.com>
> >Reply-To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> ><mediawiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org>
> >To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"
> ><mediawiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Should I be doing this??
> >Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:14:45 +0200
> >
> >Yusuf, it sounds to me like you're trying to squeeze a hierarchical
>system
> >into MW. A scheme like the one you describe may work, but it is with
the
> >risk of restraining yourself and your
users too much, and not really
>taking
> >advantage of the freedom a wiki can give you. There basically is no
> >"correct" way of organizing information in a wiki - it is up to you
and
> >your
> >users to organize the content, as you see fit.
> >
> >If you want a more hierarchical organization of content, you may be
>better
> >off with another CMS or wiki engine which is better set up for this
kind
>of
> >thing. If you want your site to be a wiki, I'd suggest you simpy
throw
> >everything together in the main
namespace, and use categories like
Java,
>C,
> >C+ etc to tie related pages together. This will be the least
restrained
> >option, leaving you and your users with
the greatest freedom to
organize
> >things as you go.
> >
> >You may use custom namespaces as you suggest, but namespaces are not
an
> >ideal way of organizing content, they
are primarily meant to
>differentiate
> >between different types of content and functionality, i.e. between
>content
> >and userpages, discussionpages, system pages etc.
> >
> >Best wishes,
> >Morten :-)
> >
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> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Yusuf Mohsinally" <yusufm(a)hotmail.com>
> >To: <mediawiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org>
> >Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 11:44 PM
> >Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Should I be doing this??
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have a site that will have information about programming
languages.
>My
> > > questions concern the organization of that information, and I
wanted
>to
> > > know
> > > if the way I am planning on doing it is correct, or if theres a
better
> > > way.
> > >
> > > - I have a namespace for each programming language. I think this
is
> > > necessary, because:
> > > ---- It allows users to search within articles for only particular
> > > languages.
> > > ---- It allows articles of the same name to live under each
language
> >(e.g.
> > > LangJava:Arrays, LangC:Arrays, etc.)
> > >
> > > - As far as I have found out. Categories are common for the whole
>site.
> > > So,
> > > the cateogory Arrays, can be a subcategory of other cateogies
(e.g.
> > > LangJava, LangC) but it will just
be one category. For example,
the
> > > categories
Category:LangJava:Arrays and Category:LangC:Arrays both
>point
> > > to
> > > the same category (Arrays), not to two different sub categories.
> > >
> > > So heres my question. Do categories that are similar between all
> > > programming
> > > languages, (e.g. Arrays) have to be labeled differently (e.g.
> >JavaArrays,
> > > CArrays) for them to be disctint, or am I missing something...
>Because,
> >if
> > > a
> > > user wants to check Arrays articles for Java, they should be able
to
> >look
> > > through a category for only Java Arrays.
> > >
> > > - Another question is, it seems that namespaces and categories are
not
> > > really mutually exclusive, so, I
need namespaces like (LangJava,
>LangC)
> > > AND
> > > articles found within these namespaces must belong to categories
like
> (Category:LangJava, Category:LangC) as well?
>
> Do the above methods seem reasonable or have I totally missed the
correct
> way of organizing information?
>
> Thanks!
>
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