[Mediawiki-l] Break out links-How are they done?

Hugh Prior mediawiki at localpin.com
Fri Aug 11 21:04:29 UTC 2006


> How is Chainki different from Google?

Let me rephrase your question: How is MediaWiki different from Google?  You 
have in fact given the answer: Google gives you the option to open all 
search results in new browser windows.  MediaWiki does not.

> I don't understand how forcing all your visitors to open all your
> links in new browser windows, and breaking the back-button functionality,
> can be more user-friendly than teaching the users to press the middle
> mouse button if they want to open a new window.

I think this is mixing two totally different things.  The user-interface is 
one thing.  The teaching of users how to use a physical device like the 
mouse is another.

Regardless of how you configure things, you are not going to be able to 
teach users to press the middle mouse button.

Let me therefore rephrase your question:

I don't understand how
a) forcing all your visitors to open all your links in new browser windows, 
and breaking the back-button functionality, can be more user-friendly
        than
b) making all links open in the same window and thus allowing those who have 
the knowledge to be able to do so to control their surfing experience should 
they wish to and open links in a new window

This I think is a fair question, and one which makes rather more sense, and 
to which I will try and answer.

I believe it is more user-friendly in the sort of website which is primarily 
about proposing links to other sites (such as Chainki and Google) to open 
the proposed site in a new window, so that the original page remains open:
* If the link is NOT opened as a new window, and the user surfs through 
half-a-dozen pages of the new site and realises that he doesn't want this 
site but that he would like to return to the list of websites, then he/she 
must back-up to reach the original page.
* If the user is used sometimes to a new window opening for a new site, and 
doesn't notice or remember that a new window has not opened in this case, 
and thinks that by closing the existing window he will return to his list, 
and yet ends up closing everything, then he/she will have completely lost 
the list; since you cannot enforce upon ALL website owners to stay strictly 
within a single browser window, this will be a common problem.
* The interface must work well for all users.  It is not good enough to say 
"serve those stupid users right who don't know how to open a link in a 
seperate window themselves".  No, the design must try and work as well as 
possible for all users, no matter their level of skill.

Chainki (for which you can read Hugh), for these sorts of reasons, has taken 
the design decision to force external links to open in a new window. 
Google, gives users the option in settings; MediaWiki does not.


Hugh 






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