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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/8/16 4:02 PM, Maarten Dammers
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Hi Andrew,<br>
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I know resources are limited but I very very strongly object with
this course of action. A lot of people are not on these mailing
list, just not reading it or on holiday because it's summer.
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I always make an attempt to personally contact project admins before
taking steps that affect a project. That said: If you are a
consumer of Labs resources, it is your /responsibility/ to subscribe
to this list and read announcements from admins. Any unattended and
unmaintained server is not just a wasted expense; it is a potential
security risk to all of Labs.<br>
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Suspending, shutting down and deletion projects is a good way to
piss off and scare away volunteers.</blockquote>
And spending thousands of dollars of donor money on resources for
projects that no one has looked at in years is a good way to ensure
that we never have any new volunteers, because we don't have any
resources to give them. It's clearly a balancing act, but I'm not
clear on what the alternatives are to having these periodic
clean-ups.<br>
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-A<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:578014E5.1000900@mdammers.nl" type="cite"> I'm
sure that's not your intended outcome. <br>
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Maarten<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08-07-16 18:09, Andrew Bogott
wrote:<br>
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<div class="" id="magicdomid7"><span class="">If you are
exclusively a user of tool labs, you can ignore this email.
If you use or administer another labs project, this email
REQUIRES ACTION ON YOUR PART.</span></div>
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<div class="" id="magicdomid9"><span class="">We are reclaiming
unused resources due to an ongoing shortage.</span></div>
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<div class="" id="magicdomid11"><span class="">Visit this page
and add a signature under projects you know to be active:</span></div>
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<div class="" id="magicdomid13"><span class=""><a
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Purge_2016"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Purge_2016">https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Purge_2016</a></a></span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid14"><br>
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<div class="" id="magicdomid15"><span class="">Associated <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wmflabs.org">wmflabs.org</a>
domains are included to identify projects by offered
services.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid16"><br>
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<div class="" id="magicdomid18"><span class="">We are not
investigating why projects are needed at this time. If one
person votes to preserve then we will do so in this round of
cleanup.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid19"><br>
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<div class="" id="magicdomid21"><span class="">In a month,
projects and associated instances not claimed will be
suspended or shutdown. A month later if no one complains
these projects will be deleted..</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid22"><br>
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<span class="">- Andrew (on behalf of all Labs Admins
everywhere)</span> <br>
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