<p dir="ltr">I agree with Andrew that asking for help via email discussion lists, in modest volumes and in lists that are relevant, is an appropriate use of lists.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Pine</p>
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<div>On 6/4/16 11:43 AM, Amir Ladsgroup
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Plus, If you were looking into the manuals
correctly. You wouldn't have any issues: Here is the <a href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:Ladsgroup/%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%B2_%D8%A8%D9%87_%D8%B2%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%A2%D8%AF%D9%85%DB%8C%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%AF" target="_blank">Persian
manual</a> and <a href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Tool_Labs#Updating_files" target="_blank">English
manual.</a>
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It's fantastic that this is documented and translated! But, I also
would hate to discourage people from using this list for support;
Huji's question was a perfectly legitimate use of labs-l.
Encouraged, even!<br>
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Labs-l is typically quite low-traffic, but for those who would
prefer a low-traffic announcement-only mailing list you can move
your subscription from labs-l to labs-announce:
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-Andrew<br>
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<div>Best</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 8:50 PM Amir Ladsgroup
<<a href="mailto:ladsgroup@gmail.com" target="_blank">ladsgroup@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Well, protocol of solving issues (IMO) is
checking help pages, then stack overflow, then asking in IRC
and the last case filing a bug in phabricator. And when
you've got your answer (for example in IRC), put it in help
pages to save others from going through this again in
future. Mailing lists are a place to discuss (not to debug)
and It's not very search-able either.
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<div>About phabricator. Don't worry to be wrong. Worst case
scenario, it'll be marked as invalid but better people
gets the ping instead of everyone in this mailing list
(given that you add proper projects).</div>
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<div>Best</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 8:36 PM Huji Lee <<a href="mailto:huji.huji@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:huji.huji@gmail.com" target="_blank">huji.huji@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">@Amir:<br>
<br>
Thanks for your reply! It is not really a bug. Things
are working fine, it is <i>my</i> knowledge that was
lacking.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I would ask on
IRC except IRC records are not really easy to search.
I thought the records of this thread email might help
someone like me in the future.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">@Maximilian:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">That solved my
problem. Is the source code of this "take" script
somewhere public? I wonder how it works.<br>
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AM, Amir Ladsgroup <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ladsgroup@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:ladsgroup@gmail.com" target="_blank">ladsgroup@gmail.com</a></a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">And Also I suggest you to file a bug
in these cases or ask in the IRC channel.
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<div>Best</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 7:46 PM
Maximilian Doerr <<a href="mailto:maximilian.doerr@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:maximilian.doerr@gmail.com" target="_blank">maximilian.doerr@gmail.com</a></a>>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">If you are
trying to make the tool the owner of the
file then use “take <file>”
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<div>On Jun 4, 2016, at 10:59,
Huji Lee <<a href="mailto:huji.huji@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:huji.huji@gmail.com" target="_blank">huji.huji@gmail.com</a></a>>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Hi,<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">My
account on WMFLabs servers
is huji and it is in
tools.huji group. I have a
file under a subdirectory of
/data/project/huji/ which is
stuck in the ownership of
huji:tools.huji and has
chmod 770:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">When
I run <i><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">chown
tools.huji:tools.huji
stats.py</span></i>
while I am logged in as
huji, it gives me a
permissions error. When I do
"become huji" and then run
the same chown command as
huji.tools, I get the exact
same error.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">When
I try <i><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">sudo
chown
tools.huji:tools.huji
file</span></i> as
either huji or tools.huji, I
get asked a password. I
don't think my account is a
sudoer.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Can
someone please help me
correct this situation? (As
in, teach me how to correct
it myself, rather than fix
it for me, unless there is
no way for me to fix it).<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Thanks,<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Huji<br>
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