<p dir="ltr">Hi Zhou,</p>
<p dir="ltr">When might we be able to see drafts of privacy policy updates for Labs and Wikimetrics?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Pine</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 15, 2016 13:30, "Zhou Zhou" <<a href="mailto:zzhou@wikimedia.org">zzhou@wikimedia.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13px">Hi Pine,</span><div style="font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-size:13px">Thank you for bringing this up.<br><div><br></div><div>By interstitial, I assume you are referring to the privacy policy blurb that appears <a href="https://metrics.wmflabs.org/policy" target="_blank">here</a> (and also as noted on the Labs TOU). </div></div><div style="font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-size:13px">The interstitial is there to provide notice to end users of WMF Labs projects that the projects are (usually) not developed and controlled by WMF but by individual members of our community. As such, the disclaimer warns users that the standard WMF TOU/privacy policy are no longer applicable and empowers users to make educated decision about how others might use their data. </div><div style="font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-size:13px">Having said that, I understand there might be concerns on the way we present this issue to the end user in the interstitial. We will look into how we can better direct lab developers to draft a clearer privacy policy. If you have specific suggestions in clarifications you would like to see, please send them my way. We will also look into incorporating into the next draft of the Labs TOU your point about real-world consequences for misuse of data.</div><div style="font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-size:13px">With respect to Wikimetrics, we also plan on modifying its privacy policy to address your concerns and clarify on how the data is being used instead of relying on the standard interstitial.</div><div style="font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-size:13px">Let me know if you have any questions.</div><div style="font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-size:13px">Thanks,</div><div style="font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-size:13px">Zhou </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Michelle Paulson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mpaulson@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">mpaulson@wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">[+Zhou as he is handling Labs TOU issues (but he and I will coordinate offline on privacy aspects of proposed changes as needed)]<br><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Pine W <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wiki.pine@gmail.com" target="_blank">wiki.pine@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>From this conversation, I'm having trouble figuring out why Wikimetrics would have that interstitial on it. Amanda, do you know why that interstital is there?<br><br></div><div>Speaking generally, I would like to suggest to Michelle that clarification on the interstitial warnings and in the Labs TOU would be helpful, as well as an amendment to the Labs TOU that outlines real-world possibilities for legal consequences for mishandling or misuse of private data that's obtained in Labs.<br><br></div><div>Thanks,<br></div><div><br></div>Pine<br></div>
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