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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><Coren> To make things clear; the filesystem backing NFS has suffered from a catastrophic failure. We are currently hard at work restoring a backup that dates from June 9 around 16h UTC. We may be able to provide part of the data at the time of the crash, but it is not certain at this time.<br><br>-<br>no comment.... ---sigh---<br><br><div>> To: labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> From: benestar.wikimedia@gmail.com<br>> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:14:36 +0200<br>> Subject: Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]<br>> <br>> Hi<br>> <br>> Am 18.06.2015 um 16:07 schrieb Petr Bena:<br>> > That is actually not that easy to decide on. The biggest community are<br>> > wikipedia readers. They don't really care about labs at all. Second<br>> > biggest community are editors, they don't care so much about labs<br>> > either.<br>> That's certainly not true. There are so many tools hosted on labs which <br>> are used by non-techs (ie. "normal" editors) and also the bots have a <br>> great impact if editors can do there work.<br>> <br>> > Developer community is not that big and most of money comes from<br>> > readers. If there was a way for donors to choose which part of<br>> > wikimedia project they would like to support with their money, I doubt<br>> > there would be many of them who would actually pick "labs".<br>> <br>> Furthermore, I think it is confusing to just consider the pure size of a <br>> community. It is much more important to see what impact the people of a <br>> community have. Wiki(p|m)edia editors have a great impact on the <br>> Wikimedia movement and readers actually pay to support the guys making <br>> this movement happen.<br>> <br>> So while it is important to make reading Wikipedia easy, it is also <br>> important to help the editors as they are the ones which actually make <br>> the content. Readers don't come to Wikipedia because there is a nice <br>> MediaViewer or a nice VisualEditor but because there is interesting <br>> content. This is the point we have to focus on.<br>> <br>> Best regards<br>> Bene<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Labs-l mailing list<br>> Labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l<br></div> </div></body>
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