<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">That means I need to restore my bots. Fortunately, I always keep a local copy.<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:39, Steinsplitter Wiki <<a href="mailto:steinsplitter-wiki@live.com" class="">steinsplitter-wiki@live.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><Coren> To make things clear; the filesystem backing NFS has suffered from a catastrophic failure. We are currently hard at work restoring a backup that dates from June 9 around 16h UTC. We may be able to provide part of the data at the time of the crash, but it is not certain at this time.<br class=""><br class="">-<br class="">no comment.... ---sigh---<br class=""><br class=""><div class="">> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org" class="">labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br class="">> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:benestar.wikimedia@gmail.com" class="">benestar.wikimedia@gmail.com</a><br class="">> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:14:36 +0200<br class="">> Subject: Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Hi<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Am 18.06.2015 um 16:07 schrieb Petr Bena:<br class="">> > That is actually not that easy to decide on. The biggest community are<br class="">> > wikipedia readers. They don't really care about labs at all. Second<br class="">> > biggest community are editors, they don't care so much about labs<br class="">> > either.<br class="">> That's certainly not true. There are so many tools hosted on labs which<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> are used by non-techs (ie. "normal" editors) and also the bots have a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> great impact if editors can do there work.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > Developer community is not that big and most of money comes from<br class="">> > readers. If there was a way for donors to choose which part of<br class="">> > wikimedia project they would like to support with their money, I doubt<br class="">> > there would be many of them who would actually pick "labs".<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Furthermore, I think it is confusing to just consider the pure size of a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> community. It is much more important to see what impact the people of a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> community have. Wiki(p|m)edia editors have a great impact on the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Wikimedia movement and readers actually pay to support the guys making<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> this movement happen.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> So while it is important to make reading Wikipedia easy, it is also<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> important to help the editors as they are the ones which actually make<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> the content. Readers don't come to Wikipedia because there is a nice<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> MediaViewer or a nice VisualEditor but because there is interesting<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> content. This is the point we have to focus on.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Best regards<br class="">> Bene<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> Labs-l mailing list<br class="">> <a href="mailto:Labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org" class="">Labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br class="">> <a href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l" class="">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l</a><br class=""></div></div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Labs-l mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>