[Labs-l] Labs privacy policy questions

[Maximilian Doerr]

I must also say that I am deeply uncomfortable with the username/password.  No tool labs tool or project has any business collecting usernames and passwords unless it's a local tool login completely separate login from WMF wikis.  If I am interpreting this incorrectly, I apologize.

That also goes without saying the collecting Access tokens of OAuth users is completely unacceptable too.

Cyberpower678
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> On Mar 8, 2016, at 04:57, Merlijn van Deen (valhallasw) <valhallasw at arctus.nl> wrote:
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> Hi Pine,
> 
>> On 8 March 2016 at 09:11, Pine W <wiki.pine at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Does "username/password combination for accounts created in Labs services" refer to service-specific Labs passwords rather than Wikimedia login credentials?
> Yes. It refers to e.g. the username/password combination you use on https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/ or http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org. Wikimetrics uses OAuth, so it will not get to know your credentials.
>  
>> I'm deeply uncomfortable with the idea that someone who logs into a Labs account could have their IP made public, and it also seems to me that any Labs tool owners who capture the IPs of tool users should be required to pass a similar level of scrutiny as is applied to Checkusers. Is this something that I should bring up with James Alexander and/or Michelle Paulson?
> 
> > someone who logs into a Labs account could have their IP made public
> Wikitech itself falls within the WMF Privacy Policy, so creating a Labs account (and logging in to Wikitech) will not share your IP with any projects. 
> 
> Using web tools hosted on Labs could, however, and realistically there not much we can do about it. For example, in the case of Tool Labs, we do not pass the IP address of the user to the tool, but a malicious tool could load an external resource and track users using that external resource. This means we would need to require checkuser-level scrutiny for every labs user, which would just mean people will host their tools off labs. The requirement to show a warning when private information is logged (cf. https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitech:Labs_Terms_of_use#What_information_should_I_provide_to_users.3F ) is a compromise.
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> In practice, Labs projects should be considered the same as any external resource: they might store private information. We just require labs project to be clear about this in advance.
> 
> Merlijn
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