[Labs-l] Slow steps ahead to merge bots and tools

Petr Bena benapetr at gmail.com
Thu Mar 14 14:40:33 UTC 2013


Fiddling with path's and hostnames? Why?

Even if we created unix account per tool - there is still no need to
bother current bot ops at all...

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Tim Landscheidt <tim at tim-landscheidt.de> wrote:
> Petr Bena <benapetr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Okay, no doubt, it's easier for you to build the cluster in separate
>> project - but it will be far harder for bot operators to move all
>> their tools and databases across project.
>
>> I don't really see many problems with creating for example the
>> structure you have in your project on separate instances in bots
>> project and later, just switch the current execution nodes to another
>> master server and slowly reschedule all running tasks to new execution
>> nodes configured as you think it's best. That way all bot operators
>> wouldn't even notice the difference! They wouldn't need to anything at
>> all.
>
>> Or if that would be too much work, why not just to change the
>> configuration of current bots instances - I don't believe they are so
>> broken as you think. Since we launched bnr boxes - nobody who was
>> running anything there yet complained about any issues.
>
>> [...]
>
> I think the biggest difference (judging from
> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Bots, I
> don't have an account on Bots) is that Tools is tool-cen-
> tric, i. e. tools do not run under their maintainers' ac-
> counts, etc.  That migration will involve some fiddling with
> paths, usernames and hosts anyway, so I think it's much eas-
> ier if not one project (and its admins and developers) has
> to accommodate both.
>
> As the number of bots on Bots seems to be limited and time
> is not an issue here, I think just waiting a few months is
> preferable.
>
> Tim
>
>
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