[Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 8, Issue 76

[Béria Lima]

Do you actually know that the 9% I reffer is the study who shows that only
9% of wp users are female, right? Because for your answer I don't quite
think you did.

And I'm here because I'm a woman and a wikipedian. I'm sorry if I don't felt
under group pression and thinks exactly like you do.

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*Béria Lima*
Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
(351) 963 953 042

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer.*


On 1 October 2011 14:55, Maggie <rockerrepro  gmail.com> wrote:

> @Beria
> I'm not clear what point you are trying to prove, other than the 9% of
> "girls'" voices don't matter. I also find it questionable that you refer to
> women as girls and don't hesitate ponder why you don't call men boys.
>
> Many women, like myself, get driven off of WP due to frustration with the
> hierarchy, which does exist. Women are treated with less respect, women are
> questioned for their motives, women are called prudish if they object to
> sexualizing images--or they are told their voices are not important because
> they only comprise 9% of the population.
>
> Why do you think they only comprise 9% then?
>
> My goal on WP is to make it more diverse, and TBH I'm not too into this
> picture discussion that has gone on for months. But it doesn't mean that it
> doesn't matter or it isn't an important one, and it doesn't mean that the
> women who care about it aren't important.
>
> Offense is not the reason here, IMO. Offense barely scratches the surface.
> I can imagine that many of the people on this list are angry--they are angry
> that women are being objectified and because women are in the minority on
> the community and it's an uninviting, sometimes terribly creepy atmosphere,
> their voices do not matter.
>
> As for badly written? My god that is the worst you can say? In writing
> terms that is just snide and a low blow. Basically, only someone who can
> think of no other insult would say this. "Well it's badly written and has
> spelling mistakes!" Come on, get a fucking life.
>
> Wikipedia is set up so that only people who look for these
> articles/pictures will know about voting procedures. So of course if there
> is a vote, the majority would probably be overall positive unless serious
> canvassing went on to let people who care about the other side know about it
> so it evens out. Canvassing is set up to prevent this--I believe it's
> actually a way of biasing the community to serve only the community, and not
> the readers. Because the readers are--the world. Telling people about the
> topic is just like how any election goes. I guess unless you are in some
> sort of fake election where people are led to believe that their votes
> actually count.
>
> Nowhere did you prove that she lied in that article. You only stated how
> you disagree with her opinion. Obviously you are not part of this group for
> the interest of women, otherwise you would care about that 9%'s opinion---so
> why are you subscribing???
>
> --Maggie
>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:49 AM, B?ria Lima <beria.lima  wikimedia.pt>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-September/069078.html
>> _____
>> *B?ria Lima*
>> Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
>>   (351) 963 953 042
>>
>> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
>> estamos a fazer.*
>>
>>
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