[Gendergap] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

carolmooredc at verizon.net carolmooredc at verizon.net
Fri May 27 01:09:20 UTC 2011


Guess we need lots more people on Commons, too, who do not tolerate 
bigotry towards women....

On 5/26/2011 8:01 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
> carol,
>
> en.wiki aproved that, Commons didn't. You can't use a rule from one 
> wiki in another. IF - and that is a BIG if, if commons community 
> approve such kind of rules, you people can remove all comments you can 
> find....
>
> Until there, is censure, and you people will not do it while i'm there 
> to watch commons RC.
> _____
> /Béria Lima/
> Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
> (351) 963 953 042
>
> /Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter 
> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que 
> estamos a fazer./
>
>
> 2011/5/27 <carolmooredc at verizon.net <mailto:carolmooredc at verizon.net>>
>
>     Racist, homophobic and anti-semitic comments are certainly
>     criticized and people ask for their removal. A pattern of such
>     comments could get one banned. The same should be true for
>     obviously sexist comments. In fact, it's here
>     See
>     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civil#Identifying_incivility -
>     after a long debate with some editors strongly opposed to adding
>     such sexist comments.
>
>         * (b) personal attacks
>           <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks>, including
>           racial, ethnic, sexual, gender-related and religious slurs,
>           and derogatory references to groups such as social classes
>           or nationalities;
>
>
>
>     On 5/26/2011 2:53 PM, Sarah wrote:
>>>     2011/5/26 Ryan Kaldari<rkaldari at wikimedia.org>  <mailto:rkaldari at wikimedia.org>
>>>>     Those types of comments are a lot worse than unnecessary. They create a
>>>>     sexualized environment that is exclusionary to anyone who isn't a
>>>>     heterosexual male. If this doesn't make sense to you, please read through
>>>>     http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Sexualized_environment
>>>>
>>>>     These types of comments should be removed on sight. If you see them,
>>>>     please delete them or email me. Thanks.
>>     On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:34, Béria Lima<beria.lima at wikimedia.pt>  <mailto:beria.lima at wikimedia.pt>  wrote:
>>>     If you start the censure in Commons, Ryan, your cause will be in Adm
>>>     noticeboard "on sight"
>>>     _____
>>>     Béria Lima
>>>     Wikimedia Portugal
>>>     (351) 963 953 042
>>     Béria, you've rightly asked that people not generalize their
>>     responses, where they assume everyone feels as they do. But the same
>>     applies to you. You're not offended by these comments. You would see
>>     their removal as censorship. Others disagree, and their arguments are
>>     valid too.
>>
>>     It would be interesting if we could try to find common ground.
>>
>>     I agree with you that it's important not to be over-sensitive. But a
>>     big problem is that women have been taught for hundreds of years that
>>     they're just over-reacting when they say they see discrimination.
>>
>>     So the question is: how do we create an environment that's welcoming
>>     for as many groups as possible -- including groups who are sensitive
>>     to perceived discrimination, and groups who are sensitive to perceived
>>     censorship?
>>
>>     Sarah
>>
>>     _
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