[Gendergap] Proposal: Forking gendergap: Main list for women and transgender, sublist for male supporters

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I strongly disagree. It is over-feminism. Noa, The Hebrew Wikipedia.

בתאריך יום שלישי, 15 במרס 2011, Laura Hale <laura at fanhistory.com> כתב:
> I'd like to propose that the gendergap be forked.  The main list would be for women and transgendered who want to work together to help increase female participation on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia Foundation projects.  The fork list would be for male allies who want to work towards a similar goal.
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> This proposal is based on two things. The first idea is that women themselves can probably best identify areas and needs regarding female participation on Wikipedia. Assuming good faith, male contributors on the list probably do really want to help work towards this goal and have women's best interest at heart and want to see improvement in the total number of female participants on the wiki... but there has been a fairly sizable amount of research in the NGO sector in countries like Africa, where outside organisations were not as effective as local organisations at identifying local problems and creating solutions that work best in a local context.  In this situation, women and transgenders would be the local community and men would be the international NGOs.
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> The second issue is that at the moment, men appear to be dominating the conversation.  (This may not by correct and I apologise if I am wrong.  I'm making this assumption based on the names of participants involved.)  Men are posting content with suggestions for women.  Men are debating if women find the term dick offensive.  Men aren't asking the women on the list if they have resources that they think other women might find useful.  Men do not appear to be asking the women on the list what their opinions are regarding the use of the term dick and if women on the list find the term offensive.  Rather, it appears that men are speaking for women without their consent.
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> I'd really like men to continue to be involved.  I think the best way would be for the creation of a sublist, specifically created for men.  As allies, they can discuss how to improve the rate of women's involvement.  As men on that strategies sublist about the creation and implementation of solutions to increase female participation, the information can be summarised and sent to some one else off list to be posted to the main list.
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> I just worry at the moment that the heavy male involvement is intimidating and keeping some women from participating.
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> Sincerely,
> Laura Hale
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