[Gendergap] Example of Typical Response from Some Women

[pbeaudette@wikimedia.org]

Howie has the data I believe.  

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From: "Oliver Keyes" <scire.facias at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:45 pm
Subject: [Gendergap] Example of Typical Response from Some Women
To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" <gendergap at lists.wikimedia.org>

As said, we need a proper survey on the matter. Surveys are always going to
be beset with statistical errors, but this seems a fairly vital thing. I
think I mentioned before that, last year, the WMF did a general survey of
people who had left Wikipedia and why. I think a good first step would be
finding out where that data is and, if it included gender in the filled-out
forms, comparing male and female reasons for leaving. If it did not, take
the general statistical model and apply it again, including a gender entry,
and compare the results.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Sandra ordonez
<sandratordonez at gmail.com>wrote:

> I think it does affect women more, but this is just my personal
> observation. And I should have put "typical response I ve gotten from
> women." This is why i love wikipedia - really helps you be very aware of
> your language. Thanks Oliver!!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Oliver Keyes <scire.facias at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yah, that's what I meant; newbie ignorance isn't a problem. Our attitude
>> to newbie ignorance is the problem :P. This is something I think all new
>> editors are at risk of (being shouted at and falling off the grid as a
>> result) - I'm not sure why it would affect women more, or if it does at all.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Dominic <dmcdevit at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>  Newbie ignorance is never a problem. All newbies are, by nature,
>>> ignorant of our policies and practices. We all started out that way. And the
>>> great thing about wikis is that that is okay and you can still contribute.
>>> If anything, the problem is intolerance of newbies. (That may be what you
>>> really meant anyway, but I think it is better to turn that phrase "newbie
>>> ignorance" around.)
>>>
>>> Dominic
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/11/11 5:49 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote:
>>>
>>> "Typical response from some women" should be "a response from a woman".
>>> So the problem, then, is newbie ignorance about our rules and policies?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Sandra ordonez <
>>> sandratordonez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just wanted to share. Yesterday I put something on my facebook re:
>>>> gender gap. My friend from high school, who totally would be a woman who
>>>> would enjoy editing an encyclopedia, posted the following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Whenever I edit it usually gets taken down but some OCD nerd, that
>>>> probably wants no one touching "their" site so I stopped bothering."
>>>>
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