[Gendergap] Bothersome? (Re: Pimp)

[Pete Forsyth]

Hi Beria,

Yes, that is why I'm here as well. And I confess that right now, I do not
have a grand theory of how to fix it all; but I'm glad to talk about, or
work on, little ideas while the big ideas percolate.

Beria, you and I have both been here for a long time, both on the Gender
Gap list and on Wikimedia projects generally. And unless I'm missing
something, I don't think either of us have offered up a plan of how to
explore or reduce the gender gap. I agree with you that posts like Sarah's
are probably not getting to the core of the gender gap issue (and I suspect
she would agree) -- but personally, I don't think they do any harm, and I
do think they help people on this list find opportunities to work together
and begin to develop working relationships.

But..that's beside the point. How about if you and I both make an effort to
suggest issues this list could take on that would be useful? I would be
very interested to hear how you would like to approach things, and I could
probably manage to string together my thoughts in a useful way as well.
What do you think? Let's propose some alternative, or additional,
directions the discussion here might take.

-Pete


On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Béria Lima <beria.lima at wikimedia.pt>wrote:

> *I'm looking forward to hearing what Caroline would like to discuss, or
>> Beria.*
>>
>
> Well Peter, when I come here (the day the list was created) the idea was
> to create a list to discuss HOW TO REDUCE GENDER GAP (in caps to make it
> more clear), that was the propose and that was the one I accepted.
>
> So far, I saw lots of discussions about en.wiki articles and images, and
> very little about the main objective of this list. I'm asking too much that
> we actually start discuss what we came here to discuss? I don't think so.
> _____
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> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
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>
>
>
> On 25 December 2011 19:41, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Agreed. On Christmas (or any other day), I am thankful this list helps
>> move things forward in a variety of ways, for a variety of different
>> people. I'm looking forward to hearing what Caroline would like to discuss,
>> or Beria. But glad to know your thoughts on "pimp" and "madam" sarah, and
>> to see a suggested path to improving wikipedia content. I do enjoy that
>> stuff the most. Collabotative encyclopedia writing is fucking awesome, and
>> I love how everybody goes about it a little differently.
>>
>> Pete
>> On Dec 25, 2011 11:25 AM, "Ole Palnatoke Andersen" <palnatoke at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> > It's a shame that my posts have been so bothersome for the list, I
>>> never
>>> > knew that I was only making things worse, or not helping at all.
>>>
>>> I, for one, do not find your posts bothersome.
>>> I find no problem with having one gender-neutral article for barbers
>>> and hairdressers or for pimps and madams, but I do find it better to
>>> have *two* good articles on the respective subjects.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ole
>>>
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