[Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

[Lodewijk]

Hi Castelo,

just to make the discussion clearer: could you just give say 5 or 10
examples of topics where you believe oral citations are unavoidable? Then I
hope that Ziko in his turn can explain how we can write about those
examples without using them.

Best regards,
Lodewijk

No dia 25 de Fevereiro de 2012 05:17, Castelo <michelcastelobranco at gmail.com
> escreveu:

> On 24-02-2012 23:18, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
>
>> Those people who would like to write on Wikipedia about any subject
>> can write a book or pdf about it. It does not have to be a scholarly
>> work in every aspect. And then, the Wikipedia in language X can decide
>> that it accepts this kind of literature as reliable. (Those various
>> standards are not uncommon in the different Wikipedias.)
>> Not everything has to happen*in*  Wikipedia.
>> Kind regards
>> Ziko
>>
> In the case of Oral Citations, the people who tells the facts are not the
> same people who want to write on Wikipedia, and definitively, not people
> willing to write a book or pdf. Editors are recording them for using this
> material in Wikipedia.
>
> We are willing to apply this in Brazil, with indigenous traditions. Some
> of the indians cannot write a book, a pdf or a Wikipedia article and those
> are exactly who have more expertise on their traditions. This can give them
> authority when describing their rituals, clothings, artefacts, fights,
> cuisine, etc., much more than a wikipedian can. And we still have a huge
> lack on articles about them, because for certains indigenous nations, there
> are almost no published material (some have no written material at all, as
> far as i know). I live in the capital city, where some of them usually come
> for present their culture in a national museum, and go back to their
> territories. In moments like these, we wikimedians can go there, take
> photos and record an interview (most speak a bit Portuguese, as well as
> their own languages), for publishing in Commons and Commons/Wikinews,
> respectively, for using in Wikipedia articles.
>
> I'm not thinking only on Wikipedia, we have also other projects not
> mentioned here, that can work together on it. Each project for a kind of
> content. In Wikinews, original reporting is fine, in Wikiversity, even
> original research is fine. They can be more reliable than a book, in some
> cases. It depends on how we do that, by reviewing, approval, etc, there's a
> lot of extensions that can be used on it.
>
>
> Castelo
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