[Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 95, Issue 58

Craig Franklin craig at halo-17.net
Thu Feb 16 11:45:20 UTC 2012


Béria,

I was not calling you out as the only person doing this, you just happened
to be the most recent.  Certainly we have a tradition in my country of
shortening names as well (or just adding the suffix -o or -za to them, so
that "John" becomes "Johnno" or "Barry" becomes "Bazza"), but I would never
presume to call you "B" or "Bério" or something like that without first
being invited to do so.  In this case, Jan-Bart has made it abundantly
clear that he prefers to be called "Jan-Bart" and not some other name, so
we should leave it at that.

Cheers,
Craig


> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:09:27 -0200
> From: B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012
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> Gom? called him Jan at least 3 times today and no one complained.
>
> Everyone in Brazil calls me "B" (yah, just the first letter) and here is
> VERY common to shortening people's  names. Is more a way to write it fast
> than to offend anyone. I can call him Mister de Vreede if you all find this
> ok, but that would be even more condescending (In my country we only threat
> people we really dislike by their last name).
> _____
> *B?ria Lima*
>
> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
> construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>*
>
>
> On 15 February 2012 23:09, Craig Franklin <craig at halo-17.net> wrote:
>
> > I had wanted to keep out of this, but this is the third or fourth time
> > that Jan-Bart has been referred to as "Jan".  It was an understandable
> > enough mistake to make the first time, but it's been pointed out
> > enough now that that is no longer an excuse.  We do not all have to be
> > best of mates, but it is not unreasonable that we all should show some
> > basic courtesy towards each other, and taking the time to get each
> > other's names right would be a good start.
> >
> > If you feel that Jan-Bart is being condescending towards you, the best
> > solution to that problem is not more condescension thrown back in the
> > opposite direction.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Craig
>


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