[Foundation-l] Meta main page

M. Williamson node.ue at gmail.com
Thu Sep 29 06:11:06 UTC 2011


No reason not to allow users to select their own language easily, especially
given that browser language preferences and location are anything but a
surefire predictor of language preference.


2011/9/28 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>

> Hoi,
> Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the browser
> language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match.
> Thanks,
>       GerardM
>
> 2011/9/28 M. Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
>
> > Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who don't
> > speak English, coming at it from the front page. Imagine you don't speak
> > English, how do you suppose you go from http://translatewiki.net/ to a
> > page
> > with instructions or content in your language? One needs at least
> > rudimentary English skills to be able to figure it out, which is an
> > unsatisfactory solution for what is supposed to be an international
> > project.
> >
> >
> > 2011/9/28 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>
> >
> > > Hoi,
> > > The main page at translatewiki.net is not less complicated imho.
> > However,
> > > it
> > > has been localised and we know quite precisely what the state of the
> > > translations is. We can pinpoint precisely what needs doing.
> > > Thanks,
> > >      GerardM
> > >
> > > 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko at gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/de
> > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/en
> > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/es
> > > >
> > > > Few examples of the new meta main page in its templated form which
> > allows
> > > > easier translation. Most translations are greatly outdated
> > unfortunately
> > > > making them essentially useless. A divide and conquer strategy was
> > > applied.
> > > >
> > > >  -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko at gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Oh, I was proposing something simpler than what I had on my commons
> > > > > userpage. Consider something like
> > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/Gen v
> > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/de
> > > > > Translators only /care/ about the text rather than the style issues
> > and
> > > > > etc. It is difficult enough finding people who can translate but
> > > > expecting
> > > > > them to understand complex use of html, templates and etc is just
> too
> > > > much.
> > > > >
> > > > > The feature you mentioned would indeed be a positive thing to keep
> > > these
> > > > > pages up to date. We could also have generic translations. For
> > example
> > > we
> > > > > expect steward elections frequently, likewise we expect a
>  wikimania
> > > each
> > > > > year. It would only make sense if these "current events" are
> > templated
> > > on
> > > > > their own.
> > > > >
> > > > >   -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/9/27 Mono mium <monomium at gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >> Might make sense.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2011/9/26 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko at gmail.com>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Meta main page seems to be not very multi-lingual because it
> > appears
> > > > to
> > > > >> be
> > > > >> > difficult to update. Each translation is more or less outdated
> and
> > > > often
> > > > >> > with an outdated/older style. I propose a template structure
> where
> > > > style
> > > > >> > info is "removed" into a template and translations only deal
> with
> > > > words.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Feel free to comment at:
> > > > >> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Templates
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >  -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
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