[Foundation-l] [Langcom-l] Ancient Greek reconstructed an analysis of a proposal for a new Wikipedia

[とある白い猫]

I think we may want a "historic texts" wikisource/wikibooks particularly for
texts in now extinct languages. Something sort of like commons for historic
texts for all extinct languages. I do not know something like this was
proposed before.

  -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)


On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:10, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, we're not discussing Latin, are we? They already have every
> project besides Wikiversity, as far as I know, so there is no need to
> discuss approval of Latin projects.
>
> Mark
>
> On 18/04/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> >  If that is all you want to discuss, the status quo is that Ancient
> Greek has
> >  been denied. I do not want to discuss Ancient Greek only. If that is
> all we
> >  are discussing, I am done talking.
> >  Thanks,
> >       GerardM
> >
> >
> >  On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >  > Stop saying Latin, we already have a Wikipedia in Latin. We are
> >  > discussing the denial of a Wikipedia for Ancient Greek.
> >  >
> >  > Mark
> >  >
> >  > On 17/04/2008, Pharos <pharosofalexandria at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Jesse Martin (Pathoschild)
> >  > >  <pathoschild at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  > >  >  Further, I've painstakingly followed every thread in this
> >  > discussion,
> >  > >  >  and I have not seen any strong argument for allowing languages
> >  > nobody
> >  > >  >  uses natively. Wikimedia wikis exist to make the sum of human
> >  > >  >  knowledge available to everyone, not to practice or preserve
> >  > >  >  languages.
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  >  I think the argument that they act as a common language for
> scholars
> >  > >  >  of the ancient language is not valid; we are not a forum for
> >  > academic
> >  > >  >  exchange.
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > You have to remember that "everyone" includes people who consider
> >  > >  written-only languages a part of their intellectual sphere.  If
> >  > >  Wikimedia was around 500 years ago, would we deny Latin for purely
> >  > >  ideological reasons, even though it was very widely used in
> >  > >  literature?  And though that use has declined greatly for Latin
> and
> >  > >  similar classical languages, I do not think we can say that such a
> use
> >  > >  is dead, nor can we at all predict the future course for such
> >  > >  languages.
> >  > >
> >  > >  And is it not true that certain topics are best researched in
> certain
> >  > >  languages?  If one were to collect writers from around the world
> to
> >  > >  write an encyclopedia article on medieval ecclesiastical history,
> >  > >  based on the most relevant and important sources, would not the
> >  > >  optimal language for collaboration be Latin?  And if one were to
> write
> >  > >  an encyclopedia article on early 20th century artificial
> languages,
> >  > >  would not the optimal language for collaboration be Esperanto?
> >  > >
> >  > >  Surely such articles, written in one context but translated into
> many
> >  > >  other languages, would be very valuable to all of our Wikipedia
> >  > >  editions.
> >  > >
> >  > >  Not that I agree with Gerard's specific proposal, but the case for
> >  > >  Wikipedias in written-only languages is quite clear to me.
> >  > >
> >  > >  Thanks,
> >  > >
> >  > > Pharos
> >  > >
> >  > >
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