[Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonavaro at gmail.com
Sun Sep 18 01:49:10 UTC 2011


On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:20 AM, David Levy <lifeisunfair at gmail.com> wrote:
> I wrote:
>
>> > You're mischaracterizing the status quo.  We haven't determined that
>> > "nothing is objectionable" to anyone;  we rightly assume that
>> > _everything_ is potentially objectionable to someone (and refrain from
>> > favoring certain objections over others).
>
> André Engels replied:
>
> No analogous situation forces us to treat readers differently based on
> their personal beliefs regarding what images are/aren't objectionable.
>
>> > You mentioned a hypothetical "unveiled women" category.  Do you
>> > honestly believe that the idea of tagging images in this manner is
>> > remotely realistic?
>
>> I'd say it is, provided there are people wanting to use the filter, and not
>> minding the fact that in the beginning it will be far from perfect.
>
> So we eventually will analyze millions of images (and monitor the
> thousands uploaded on a daily basis) to tag each and every one
> containing an unveiled woman?
>
>> > What about images depicting miscegenation (another concept to which
>> > many people strongly object)?  Are we to have such a category?
>
>> I'd say if there are people actually wanting to use such a filter, then yes,
>> I would think we might well get one.
>

Wikimedia *used* to hold the position that we wouldn't aid China to block
images of the Tianamen Massacre, and went to great lengths to assure
that chinese users of Wikipedia could evade blocks to viewing. I am not
sure you are on a right track with regards to our traditions and values here.




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