[Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

Andre Engels andreengels at gmail.com
Fri Sep 16 19:57:26 UTC 2011


On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Tobias Oelgarte <
tobias.oelgarte at googlemail.com> wrote:

> I would not have any problems if we would not play in the hands of
> censors (local ISPs, a simple proxy, regimes, institutions, ...) by
> actually labeling content as objectionable. Which gives away the control
> over the content by the user itself, while no one would invest the money
> if he would need to label the content itself.
>

So how do you expect those censors to use this?


> >> How would you expect to find a good compromise in decisions on what to
> >> filter and what not? Do you intend to put an extremist conservative Arab
> >> and and the most liberal German inside the same room, close the door, go
> >> away, come back after two weeks and look if they could find a compromise
> >> about Yes or No? How should this work?
> >>
> > Quite simple: add one filter for each, and describe for each what they
> > filter, then let every user for themself decide whether to filter the
> one,
> > the other, neither or both.
> You should know that there are hundreds of phobias, cultural conflicts
> and other categories of possibly objectionable content. Do you expect us
> to manage all this categories of filtering, or would you say that it
> will be narrowed down to be user friendly and manageable, while leaving
> out some categories and ignore the complies of some minorities?
> >
> >> The referendum showed that cultural neutrality is important for the
> >> voters. But how do you think to find a compromise between hell and
> >> heaven, without having hell and heaven inside the discussions at commons
> >> at earth?
> >>
> > See above - if your filters are not almost the same, don't use the same
> > filter, but create two different ones.
> >
>
> See above at my comment. Maybe we should put this questioning together
> as one fact.
>
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