[Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

Hubert hubert.laska at gmx.at
Thu Oct 13 08:11:34 UTC 2011



Am 10.10.2011 21:16, schrieb Sue Gardner:
> On 10 October 2011 11:56, Möller, Carsten <c.moeller at wmco.de> wrote:
>> Sue wrote:
>>> It is asking me to do something.
>>> But it is not asking me to do the specific thing that has
>>> been discussed over the past several months, and which the Germans
>>> voted against.
>>
>> I may translate:
>> As the German community has voted against filters,
>> I was ordered to circumvent this vote by making some adjustments to the wording.
>>
>> That will not work. The vote was very clear agaist all image filters.
>> The referendum was a farce, as we clearly see.
>>
>> Sorry, somebody is playing games with us.
> 
> 
> Truly, Carsten, nobody is playing games with you. The Board's
> discussion was sincere and thoughtful.
Maybe, but for me, it is absolutely unserious, to start an survey
without the basic question:

1. Filter or not?
2. who will do the work and manage the war inside Commons, when unknown
persons and groups, up to this point entirely unknown, called from the
strangest organizations, will start the crusade to improve the world!

> 
> This is how the system is supposed to work. The Board identified a
> problem; the staff hacked together a proposed solution, and we asked
> the community what it thought. Now, we're responding to the input and
> we're going to iterate. This is how it's supposed to work: we mutually
> influence each other.
sounds good, but you did´nt act like that! This is just theory!

> 
> I'm not saying it isn't messy and awkward and flawed in many respects:
> it absolutely is. But nobody is playing games with you. The Board is
> sincere. It is taking seriously the German community, and the others
> who have thoughtfully opposed the filter.
> 
I just read from the board: The decision is fixed, there will be a
filter worldwide, no exceptions allowed.

thanks

h

80.000 edits in the last seven years. Spending thousands of hours to
support the project. And not only by editing!

> The right thing to do now is to accept the olive branch, and work with
> the Wikimedia Foundation to figure out a good solution. You want to
> train the Wikimedia Foundation that listening to you is the path to a
> successful outcome :-)
> 
> Thanks,
> Sue
> 
> 
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