[Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

[Béria Lima]

>
> *The major program initiative undertaken by Hisham's team so far is the
> India Education Program.*
>

You sure you want to use that as an example of Hishan
work<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-11-07/Special_report>?
Because if was in a "for-profit" organization things like that would lead
to a demission in 2 seconds.

*WLM is a wonderful project, one which WMF actively supported (most
> importantly by improving Upload Wizard to directly support the management
> of the upload campaigns).
> *


Or so the people who spend lots and LOTS of time in Commons, creating,
updating and localizing the Upload campaigns for WLM had WMF support?
Because we didn't saw any during the time we were doing it. Create the
Upload Wizard (thanks for it - despite the fact I preffer the old
commonist) don't make you "supportes" because the UW was not created for
WLM or even thinking about it.

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*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
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On 12 November 2011 07:18, Erik Moeller <erik em wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:04 PM, rupert THURNER
> <rupert.thurner em gmail.com> wrote:
> > to get a feeling about the size, the number of readers, contributors,
> and a
> > trend in it, i tried to find the india country statistics on editing and
> > reading:
>
> The major program initiative undertaken by Hisham's team so far is the
> India Education Program. See:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Courses
>
> So far there's been a pilot program, which uncovered lots of serious
> issues with the quality of content contributed by the participating
> courses. This is now driving further iteration of the program, as it
> should.
>
> The pilot very much built on, and was informed by, the lessons learned
> in the Public Policy Initiative, which was the largest and most
> successful student engagement program ever undertaken in the Wikimedia
> movement (!). Both the India Education Program and the PPI have been
> led by Frank Schulenburg, who is an experienced and accomplished
> Wikipedian.
>
> > at the same time, another part of the world, a foto competition, no
> trust,
> > no consultants, no KPMG involved, but a lot of volunteers and chapters.
> it
> > gave 160'000 images for wikimedia commons, in one month. and, 30% new
> > contributors. [2]
>
> WLM is a wonderful project, one which WMF actively supported (most
> importantly by improving Upload Wizard to directly support the
> management of the upload campaigns). It really is credit to all the
> people who developed it, and built on the lessons from last year's WLM
> in the Netherlands.
>
> It's also a photo competition, which by its very nature is a very
> different kind of program than something like the IEP, with very
> different risks and opportunities. It's easy to compare apples and
> oranges and say "those apples are rotten, my oranges are so much
> nicer". But they are very different fruit entirely. :)
>
> I don't think anyone is served by stereotyping people or programs.
> We're all pulling towards the same goal. That doesn't mean constantly
> patting ourselves on the back, but let's focus on the the substance of
> the work rather than on peddling stereotypes about ignorant
> consultants and "outsiders".
>
> --
> Erik Möller
> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
>
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