[Foundation-l] CentralNotice use
de10011 at gmail.com
Thu May 19 16:40:50 UTC 2011
I asked Mono to announce POTY centralnotice use on Foundation-l after he
made a request on Meta. The only consensus to MZ's RfC on Meta  was that
Global banners could be used for Non-fundraising reasons after consensus is
achieved for the proposal and the banner itself on Meta first.
Currently, there are no clear guidelines on the community's use of
central-notice - multiple geo-located, chapter-requested campaigns have been
running on central-notice without objection. Global-banners have been used
for things like the March/May update and for soliciting candidates for the
It's time to consider guidelines if we are going to have Global banners.
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Mono mium <monomium at gmail.com> wrote:
> The POTY banner was announced on this list with no objections.
> On Thursday, May 19, 2011, church.of.emacs.ml
> <church.of.emacs.ml at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed
> > there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board
> > elections and commons POTY), some of which are not of much interest to
> > the audience.
> > Take for example one of the most recent banners about candidate
> > submissions for Wikimedia's Board Elections. Until most recently, it
> > has been displayed on every single page view for most of our 400 Million
> > readers or so, according to the setup for 20 days. >99.9999% of our
> > readers won't be candidates and for most of them, this is of no interest
> > at all. Which is sad of course, we'd love to get more qualified and
> > diverse candidates – that is to say, not only members of Wikimedia's
> > core community. Nevertheless, the question remains: do the positive
> > effects (chances on higher diversity) outweigh the negative consequences
> > (readers/authors are annoyed)?
> > Take another example: The call for votes on common's anual picture of
> > the year competition has two very large banners with colorful images on
> > them .
> > I think, there has to be a serious consideration for each banner,
> > whether its positive effects outweigh negative consequences. Most
> > importantly, the fact that banners divert the readers attention and are
> > therefor in most cases not in his direct interest, has to be considered.
> > There are several ways of minimizing negative effects:
> > 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for
> > information concerning active Wikimedians, e.g. Wikimania, POTY, etc.
> > 2. Reduce weight - don't display a banner on every page view, but only
> > on one in ten. (We have to use blank banners to do that, right?)
> > 3. Reduce duration. (e.g. Don't display banners for a month, only a week)
> > 4. Reduce banner size and intrusiveness. Use text banners instead of
> > colorful images.
> > What do you think? Do we need to limit the use of CentralNotice through
> > guidelines or introduce technical measurements (e.g. blank banners)
> > or just appeal to meta admins to consider negative effects or is
> > everything fine the way it is?
> > Regards,
> > Tobias / User:Church of emacs
> > 
> > 
> >  Afaik changing weight alone only changes the distribution of
> > banners. We'd have to add a "pseudo banner" which is completely empty
> > and then give it some weight. Using that, we ensure that there isn't a
> > banner on *every* page view, only on 1 in 5 or 1 in 10 or so.
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