[Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

Thomas Morton morton.thomas at googlemail.com
Thu May 19 09:38:52 UTC 2011


A way to tie clicking "hide" to an *account* rather than just by storing it
as a local cookie would also be a good move.

Tom / ErrantX

On 19 May 2011 10:36, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki at gmail.com> wrote:

> church.of.emacs.ml, 19/05/2011 10:52:
> > There are several ways of minimizing negative effects:
> > 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for
> > information concerning active Wikimedians, e.g. Wikimania, POTY, etc.
> > 2. Reduce weight - don't display a banner on every page view, but only
> > on one in ten. (We have to use blank banners to do that, right?[3])
> > 3. Reduce duration. (e.g. Don't display banners for a month, only a week)
> > 4. Reduce banner size and intrusiveness. Use text banners instead of
> > colorful images.
>
> The first thing to do is 4): standard templates like [1] and [2] are ok,
> while the recent "march/may updates"[3] and POTY [4] seem unnecessarily
> big.
> 1) is the easiest and most obvious; such banners could also be
> restricted only to users with at least 100/200/whatever number of edits,
> but e.g. I wouldn't know how to do so; some documentation would be useful.
> 3) is not necessary in itself, but it is so if there are many banners:
> CentralNotice shouldn't be in permanent use, so if there are many
> requests there should be some scheduling.
>
> It should also be considered that the CentralNotice kills local
> community sitenotices, although they are usually more important and
> interesting for local users. Local communities should be able to use the
> sitenotice at least for some periods of the year.
>
> Finally, I wonder how useful are big banners such as the "May update". I
> like it (although I had to hide it a dozen times a day on several
> wikis), but I didn't see any effect. Reading the letter is not so useful
> in itself; it's useful if there's some discussion. There was a long
> discussion on it.wiki when the board resolution was posted on the
> village pump, but nothing after the CentralNotice. A local, very small
> sitenotice with a link to a local discussion is probably much more
> effective; perhaps it would be nice to offer communities to disable the
> CentralNotice if they implement a local sitenotice or other solution.
>
> Nemo
>
> [1]
> <
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/view&template=boardvotecandidates
> >
> [2]
> <
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/view&template=WMDE_community_budget
> >
> [3]
> <
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/view&template=May2011Update
> >
> [4]
> <
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralNotice&method=listNoticeDetail&notice=poty2010
> >
>
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