[Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart
Andreas Kolbe
jayen466 at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 14 13:46:49 UTC 2011
--- On Mon, 14/3/11, Dror Kamir <dqamir at bezeqint.net> wrote:
> From: Dror Kamir <dqamir at bezeqint.net>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart
> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Date: Monday, 14 March, 2011, 13:27
> First of all, I am not talking just
> about BLP. This is part of the
> problem. I am also concerned about new editors who were
> treated badly
> (that happens more often than you think), about
> unreasonable decisions
> of admins etc. Secondly, such ombudsman should keep a
> certain distance
> from Wikipedia's "corridors", namely, s/he must not be an
> administrator
> nor bureaucrat, and while s/he should be well acquainted
> with Wikipedia,
> perhaps it would be better if s/he won't edit. Furthermore,
> it is
> crucial that this person be identified by her/his real name
> and be
> reachable in various ways, not only through an e-mail
> address. It is
> also important that this person give a public account on
> the problems
> s/he handled and measures s/he took to solve them. The very
> existence
> of such a report is the guarantee that all complaints
> be addressed
> properly, and in addition it would increase transparency
> and let us have
> a clear picture of the Wikipedian scene.
Having a single person would not work, as people would assume that a single
person may have their own personal biases affecting their judgment.
An elected committee might work, and I do think we should look at empowering
such a committee to remove the right to edit BLPs from editors who
repeatedly abuse it, and at creating the technical means to do so.
Whether that is by creating a separate BLP project, as John has proposed,
which can block or ban its own editors, or as part of a BLP flag system in
Wikipedia, is relatively immaterial.
Andreas
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