[Foundation-l] retire the administrator privilege

[MARIA DE LOS ANGELES HERRERA GARCIA]

 POR FAVOR DE ESCRIBIR EN ESPAÑOL ,YA QUE NO COMPRENDO BIEN EL INGLES..GRACIAS

 
 
 
 

 
 




 
> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:54:05 -0800
> From: saintonge en telus.net
> To: foundation-l en lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] retire the administrator privilege
> 
> On 03/04/11 2:04 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> > 2011/3/4 Ray Saintonge<saintonge en telus.net>:
> >> On 03/03/11 5:44 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> >>> The name "administrator" gives the impression of some mythical
> >>> "balance of power", although administrators don't actually
> >>> administrate - they (un)delete, (un)block and (un)protect, in addition
> >>> to editing articles and participating in discussions just like
> >>> everybody else. The name "sysop" (system operator), used occasionally
> >>> in English, and more frequently in some other languages (e.g. Hebrew),
> >>> sounds less like a managerial role, but it's technical and cryptic and
> >>> requires explanation.
> >>>
> >>> Giving user groups exact and real names will likely change the
> >>> attitude of many users who see these user groups as "the powers that
> >>> be" and think that they're impenetrable.
> >> You make a strong point. People cherish their titles and the
> >> self-esteem. Being able to say "I am a Wikipedia administrator," to
> >> someone who has never edited Wikipedia gives an impression of
> >> importance. Breaking the task into its components leaves each part less
> >> prestigious.
> > Most admins with whom i am familiar aren't using their adminship to
> > gain prestige.
> >
> > I'd rather be "the guy who wrote a detailed encyclopedic article about
> > every diacritic sign in the Hebrew alphabet" than an admin - i find a
> > lot more prestige in it. I am happy about being an admin, not because
> > of prestige, but because having the permission to delete pages without
> > going through some request page is simply useful for writing articles
> > and making the wiki better.
> >
> > Put simply, good admins, who use their permissions to create a better
> > wiki, are not supposed to object to such a change.
> 
> Absolutely, but you only get that warped perspective because you deal 
> essentially with good admins. :-P
> 
> It's the ones that you don't associate with that I would worry about.
> 
> Ray
> 
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