[Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] YouTube and Creative Commons

emijrp emijrp at gmail.com
Sat Jun 4 17:57:11 UTC 2011


A nice script to download YouTube videos is youtube-dl[1]. Link that with a
flv/mp4 -> ogg converter and an uploader to Commons is trivial.

[1] http://rg3.github.com/youtube-dl/

2011/6/4 Michael Dale <mdale at wikimedia.org>

> Comments inline:
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > (I'm not sure offhand if I'm set up to cross-post to Foundation-l; if
> this
> > doesn't make it, somebody please CC a mention if necessary. Thanks!)
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:42 PM, aude <aude.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Aside from the very real privacy issue, YouTube videos can disappear at
> > any
> > > time.  I would much rather we host them on Commons.
> > >
> > > A youtube2commons script is pretty easy to implement,
> >
>
>
> yes a basic youtube2commons script was posted by Jan on wikivideo-l list
> recently:
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikivideo-l/2011-May/000056.html But
> as
> you point out we really need to work on increasing the upload size limit.
>
>
>
> >
> > There's been some ongoing work on TimedMediaHandler extension which will
> > replace the older OggHandler
> >
>
>
> Yes, been hammering away on associated bugs. People can help by testing and
> filing bugs :) thedj has helped file a lot of bugs, and Brion too recently
> has been taking a look at the transcoding side of things and Roan did a
> good
> first pass review and thous suggestions have since been integrated.  I hope
> to have a new version up prototype soon that integrates all the known
> requested features / bugs listed in bugzilla some time next week. (with the
> exception of features tagged for version 1.1 like server side srt parsing
> and timed wikitext -> html -> srt text with html tag removal )  Once I get
> this update out to prototype I will try and do a blog post at that point to
> invite people to put test it out.
>
>
>
> > Basic uploads by URL work in theory, but I'm not sure the deployment
> > status.
> > Background large-file downloads are currently disabled in the latest code
> > and needs to be reimplemented if that's to be used.
> >
>
>
> Yea we have bug:
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20512tracking
> re-enabling copy by url. Once we have webm TMH deployed it would
> make for simple youtube cc content with importing without conversion :)
>
>
> >
> > For straight uploads, regular uploads of large files are a bit
> problematic
> > in general (they hit memory limits and such and have to make it through
> > caching proxies and whatnot), but there's also been some new work on
> > improved chunked uploads for FireFogg (and perhaps for general modern
> > browsers that can do fancier uploads). Michael Dale can probably give
> some
> > updates on this, but it'll be a bit yet before it's ready to go.
> >
>
> Yes we are reimplementing the firefogg chunk uploading as ResumableUpload (
> name of new extension ) in a way that allows both HTML5 XHR browsers to use
> the chunk protocol in addition to firefogg ( if your converting video from
> a
> proprietary source ). In addition we had disscutions at the Berlin
> Hack-a-ton that cleared up some confusion about the concerns with the
> firefogg protocol and modified it to explicitly state the byte ranges of
> chunks in requests and server responses. Also had a brief chat with Russell
> on IRC, so that we can support this append chunks system as we move to the
> swiftMedia back end.
>
> --michael
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