[Foundation-l] Black market science

Samuel Klein meta.sj at gmail.com
Thu Jul 7 11:20:38 UTC 2011


There are some extensions out there to accept latex and convert it to
wikitext.  CK12 used one, I believe.
That seems like an easy improvement to wikisource, not a separate project.

I agree that we could have a wikijournal for contemporary publication
- as a WS namespace if not a separate project.   PLoS and arXiv offer
some guidelines for low-overhead moderation, and we could have a
'quarantine' for possible crank submissions that are posted but not
yet given that light review.  We have enough attention now in most
sciences, if not in every field, to get input from solid reviewers.

S.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2011/7/7 Ting Chen <wing.philopp at gmx.de>
>
>> On de.wikisource.org they scan every page of the original text, upload
>> the scan on Commons and show the scan on the right part of every page as
>> an image. It is even obligatory to have the original scan of the text.
>>
>> The following page is an example:
>> http://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Seite:Oberamt_Tettnang_231.jpg (I just hit
>> the random page)
>>
>
> I know - in fact, it was exactly what I wanted to explain :-)
> I think this system is perfect for digitized documents, aka paper documents
> which has been scanned and need transcription.
>
> MVHO is that the same system is redundant for born-digital documents.
> If we use the Proofread Extension (that's how it's called), you need to
> re-transcribe the whole text, or at least have it formatted. Then you
> transclude the text in ns0.
> The text is reliable, but it is a lot of work, and lot of it is just
> redundant (why write by hand something tha has just benn written in a good
> pdf?).
>
> If we use the simple ns0 (many wikisources are not so sctrict as de.source
> in this regard) you need to do the same (transform in wikitext, format). So
> the issues remain.
>
> Now, I was wondering if we can find another (technical? organizational?
> political?)solution for born-digital documents, as pdf, scientific articles
> etc.
>
> Aubrey
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