[Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

[Marc Riddell]

> On 2/18/2011 12:38 PM, Zack Exley wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:28 AM, phoebe ayers<phoebe.wiki at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> And it's worth pointing out the obvious -- the reason there are so
>>> many places is because it's nearly impossible to keep up with
>>> *everything* going on in the communit(ies)* all the time. Even a
>>> subset of that discussion can be too much for those of us trying to
>>> get other things done as well; most of the subscribees of the list
>>> probably skim it at least some of the time. And the vast majority of
>>> our community is not even on Foundation-l.... but a pretty large
>>> percentage (I'd guess) of those people who interested in governance,
>>> foundation and meta-issues probably are subscribed, which is just one
>>> of the reasons why it's worth trying to make it a useful forum -- a
>>> perennial hope and dream!
>> I'd just like to add my perspective as a relatively new staffer at WMF.
>> People in the office really do read Foundation-l and all the other movement
>> lists. They are very much influenced by them and take them very seriously. A
>> couple of times, someone on this list has said that WMF staff call
>> Foundation-l "Troll-l". I've never heard anyone refer to it that way.

on 2/18/11 3:47 PM, Michael Snow at wikipedia at frontier.com wrote:

> In my experience, it's actually mostly community members frustrated with
> the quality of discussions who call it that. The staff avoid that kind
> of tone, understandably, as it might seem unprofessional. Personally, I
> prefer not to suggest that anyone is a troll, except for Domas (he likes
> it).
> 
Yes. Often a person with a need to control a conversation or discussion will
resort to that name-calling tactic. They don't like the POV the messenger is
bringing so they try to discredit them.

Marc Riddell