[Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

[Dan Rosenthal]

On Feb 17, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Pronoein wrote:

> Le 17/02/2011 02:07, Dan Rosenthal a écrit :
>> I'm not referring to a single incident. I'm referring to a broader trend; there have been recent incidents on other mailing lists as well, including ones where staff subscriptions are more prevalent than foundation-l (although I'm going to disagree with you and suggest more than just a handful of WMF employees and contractors are subscribed to this list. It's still the "main" public list we have.)
>> 
>> You have a perfectly valid point about transparency, but that's not the issue here. The issue is the unwarranted criticism that is starting to become commonplace. That IS foundation-l (or more specifically, certain posters) fault.
> 
> In summary, you detect a trend of criticism towards the staff's actions
> from many independent lists and you conclude that it is unfair,
> unfounded or caused by some foreign cause. It is much simpler to
> hypothetize that the staff's actions are the common cause. Just assume
> good faith when you're beign told that the opacity is the cause.
> 
> Thinking about why people are asking for transparency would help solve
> the issue much better than denying the legitimity of their concerns,
> whether by saying that their pretenses are false or invalid.
> 
> Democracy is the best way to understand each other. Some want it because
> they believe in equality as a end. Some don't care about it and just
> want to keep their job or mission going, and they're ready to accept it
> as the rules of the game.
> 
> If no common ground is found, then mistrust arise.
> 
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Your solution is that it is easier to blame the staff, rather than point out that the criticism lacks any foundation? And then you say  "assume good faith"? That does not make much sense to me. Good faith is a two-way street.

-Dan