[Foundation-l] [Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Planned 1.17 deployment on February 8]

Tue Feb 8 16:59:41 UTC 2011

1.17 has just been rolled out again, but there still seem to be load
issues: see http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/?r=day&s=descending&c=

Pete / the wub


On 8 February 2011 16:46, Bartol Flint <winters1c at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know what you mean Stephanie. Wikipedia is still not working for me
> right? anyone else having issue?
>
>
> --
> Bartol Flint
> Student
> Erasmus University Rotterdam
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Stephanie Daugherty <sdaugherty at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> As far as I'm aware, as a long standing matter of practice, WMF sites
>> run the latest stable or development Mediawiki, as a matter of "eating
>> our own dog food". That implies that the notice was merely a courtesy
>> because the change was expected to cause downtime, rather than a point
>> of discussion. My understanding is barring technical problems caused
>> by an upgrade, individual projects have about the same chances to
>> switch their project to Microsoft Sharepoint as they do to hold back
>> an upgrade. This may seem unusual because everything else revolves
>> around discussion, but the developers and sysadmins need consistency
>> to be able to support as many projects as WMF hosts - otherwise they'd
>> probably be looking at having 2-3 devs for each project in each
>> language, which is simply unfeasible even with WMF's resources.
>>
>>
>> -Stephanie
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Gerard Meijssen
>> <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hoi,
>> > What would more notice achieve ?
>> >
>> > The process of installing release 1.17 is important. It did not succeed
>> for
>> > now but I hope it will be tried again when feasible. There are
>> improvements
>> > in 1.17 where people have been waiting for for a long time.
>> > Thanks,
>> >       GerardM
>> >
>> > On 8 February 2011 15:58, Bartol Flint <winters1c at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Did this something to have do with the downtime today. I saw different
>> >> language project were not working at the same time. Some page still
>> don't
>> >> look right. the box are broken and tools are not working.
>> >>
>> >> More notice earlier please. Thank you.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bartol Flint
>> >> Student
>> >> Erasmus University Rotterdam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Guillaume Paumier <
>> gpaumier at wikimedia.org
>> >> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Concerns have been raised that this needed wider distribution. Please
>> >> > note that it will happen in about 10 hours from now.
>> >> >
>> >> > -------- Message transféré --------
>> >> > De: Rob Lanphier <robla at wikimedia.org>
>> >> > Reply-to: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> >> > À: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> >> > Sujet: [Wikitech-l] Planned 1.17 deployment on February 8
>> >> > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:45:30 -0800
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi everyone,
>> >> >
>> >> > Just repeating something I just posted to
>> >> > http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2011/02/planned-1-17-deployment/
>> >> >
>> >> > The engineering team is busy working on the deployment of the 1.17
>> branch
>> >> > of
>> >> > MediaWiki[1].  We plan to roll this out next week to all languages and
>> >> > projects, Tuesday, February 8, with work starting at 07:00 UTC (which
>> is
>> >> > 11pm on Monday, February 7 for San Francisco).
>> >> >
>> >> > If all goes well, you should only notice the improvement. If it
>> doesn’t
>> >> go
>> >> > well, that’s because there’s something we missed, and that’s where
>> we’d
>> >> > love
>> >> > your help.  Please help us test this release! We have a test instance
>> of
>> >> > the
>> >> > software we plan to deploy available at
>> http://prototype.wikimedia.org/.
>> >> >  If
>> >> > you find issues, please report them in Bugzilla:
>> >> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bugzilla
>> >> >
>> >> > There are many, many little fixes and improvements that have gone into
>> >> 1.17
>> >> > (see the draft release notes[2] for an exhaustive list) .  There isn’t
>> >> much
>> >> > that’s visible to users of the site, but one under the hood
>> improvement
>> >> > that
>> >> > should result in some speed improvements: Resource Loader[3].
>>  Resource
>> >> > Loader optimizes the use of JavaScript in MediaWiki, speeding up
>> delivery
>> >> > of
>> >> > JavaScript by compressing it sometimes, and cutting down on the amount
>> of
>> >> > unused JavaScript that gets delivered to the browser in the first
>> place.
>> >> >  Much of the work in this development cycle has been centered on
>> ensuring
>> >> > compatibility with the new system.  Since it makes such a large shift
>> in
>> >> > the
>> >> > way that JavaScript is delivered to the browser, it’s also an
>> operational
>> >> > aspect we’ll be keeping a close eye on, as load shifts between servers
>> in
>> >> > our infrastructure.
>> >> >
>> >> > Note that this isn’t a release for download, yet.  On and after
>> February
>> >> 8,
>> >> > the “latest” version of MediaWiki will still be 1.16 as listed on
>> >> > mediawiki.org. We plan to update this to 1.17 sometime after the
>> >> > deployment
>> >> > of the 1.17 branch, after we’ve had time to run it in production for a
>> >> > while
>> >> > and fix the issues we’re likely to find.
>> >> >
>> >> > So please, help us test this release, and if you find bugs, please
>> report
>> >> > them in Bugzilla.  Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > Rob
>> >> >
>> >> > [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_roadmap/1.17
>> >> > [2]
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_17/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES?view=co
>> >> > [3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader
>> >> > [4] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download
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>> >> > --
>> >> > Guillaume Paumier
>> >> > Product manager - Wikimedia Foundation
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