[Foundation-l] Baidu Baike & Wikipedia 百度百科與維基百科 (英文)

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
The best thing regarding the Chinese Wikipedia is that the last few months
the traffic has been growing astoundingly. This to an extend where in
traffic Chinese is now the tenth wikipedia in traffic.

In the end it is not about Baidu, it is about bringing great NPOV
information to the Chinese. When Baidu abuses our content and we continue to
grow in traffic I could not care less. Yes, it is copyright infringement and
all of us do not have "illegal" copies of music or movies on any of our
electronic devices.
Thanks,
       GerardM

http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthly.htm

2011/4/21 Ting Chen <wing.philopp at gmx.de>

> Hello,
>
> Fact is that Baidu doesn't care. We don't know who backs Baidu in China
> but with its prominent position it cannot be anyone very small. Maybe
> some of you remember that a few months ago there were media coverage
> about Hudong is going to sue Baidu because of copyright infringement,
> but that also just disappeared somewhere in the Chinese juristiction
> system. Rumor say that Hudong did it only to get some publicity. At this
> moment there is no point to sue Baidu, neither for any Wikipedian nor
> for WMF.
>
> Greetings
> Ting
>
>
> On 21.04.2011 06:16, wrote RYU Cheol:
> > RIght, WMF is not the copyright holder of articles as Free Software
> > Foundation is not of GPLed source codes.
> >
> > Though WMF could give legal help for a Wikipedian to file a law suit or
> WMF
> > could be an agent for the Wikipedian,
> > WMF need to approach Baidu to discuss about attribution. I don't think
> Baidu
> > has so much difficulties to do it.
> >
> > Cheol
> >
> > 2011/4/19 Thomas Dalton<thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
> >
> >> 2011/4/19 Dana Lutenegger<dana.lutenegger at gmail.com>:
> >>> Actually, I'm pretty sure that on paper, Chinese law forbids this kind
> of
> >>> copying without attribution. The issue is whether or not it can be
> >> enforced
> >>> in practice. If it was strictly enforced, a lot of Baidu Baike and
> Hudong
> >>> Wiki would have to be seriously retooled, so I doubt it. However, there
> >> have
> >>> been recent cases in which copyright infringement claims have been
> upheld
> >> by
> >>> Chinese courts, such as the infamous "Starbuck" coffee chain in
> Shanghai.
> >> I
> >>> think that our legal counsel should at least be in touch with Baidu on
> >> this,
> >>> and perhaps try to get them to take down the material, attribute it
> >>> properly, or agree to the donation or apology letter ideas.
> >> The Starbuck case would be trademark infringement, not copyright, so
> >> isn't a particularly useful precedent. I believe China has similar
> >> copyright laws to the rest of the world, though (our article says they
> >> have signed several international agreements on the subject:
> >>
> >>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China
> >> ).
> >>
> >> Keep in mind, the WMF isn't the copyright holder, so there is a limit
> >> to what the WMF's legal counsel can do. He could have a quiet word,
> >> though, which could help.
> >>
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