[Foundation-l] Plea for candidates: WMF Movement Communications Manager

Ray Saintonge saintonge at telus.net
Sat Apr 16 07:37:39 UTC 2011


On 04/15/11 5:05 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
> So nobody has any idea why things are the way they are? Will I have
> to make a drawing?

A *relevant* drawing would be nice.  Your offer of a drawing is no less 
sarcastic than David's about being consulted. We're not talking about 
elaborate theoretical ramblings purporting to explain how we got where 
we are. That solves nothing.  What I addressed was a class of comments 
that is neither constructive nor a personal attack, but somewhere in 
between.

Ray

> At 00:43 16-04-2011, you wrote:
>> It is a valid point about David's comment. Maybe us old hands have
>> become too accustomed to David's sarcasm. Other than that it seems to
>> have been a conversation where one person was offside to everybody else.
>> I've been there before and know how uncomfortable it can become.  The
>> insensitive comment was certainly not essential to the main topic of the
>> thread,  but if in raising it the only result would be to have David
>> personally change his ways nothing of significance to the community
>> would have been accomplished.  One person would have been fixed while
>> the rest of us could go smugly on believing that that was the end of it.
>>
>> The continuum from valid on-topic comments, through insensitive sarcasm
>> to outright personal attacks is not made up of discrete and easily
>> identifiable steps.  Where is the middle ground between insensitivity
>> and hypersensitivity.
>>
>> Ray
>




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