[Foundation-l] Strategy wiki

WereSpielChequers werespielchequers at gmail.com
Sun Apr 10 06:34:51 UTC 2011


I'm not convinced that the need to retype your password  was the only
or even the main reason why Strategy had relatively few participants
from the community.

Using Strategy as a testbed for liquid threads was also a contributory
factor, I'm sure I wasn't the only person who had problems with that.
I think it would have been better to ask for one of the smaller wikis
to volunteer - perhaps with a promise of extra developer resource in
compensation. But using Strategy as a pilot for Liquid threads meant
that for most editors the Strategy wiki was less familiar than it
needed to be, and when there were glitches with Liquid threads it was
all too easy to stop editing on Strategy and go back to your home
wiki, that's certainly what I did.

I suspect that launching a completely new wiki where all banned users
could come and troll was slightly too brave and open a move for some
editors, and that it would have been better to have run Strategy as a
project within meta.  In fact if we are serious about the
simplification agenda then migrating the contents of Strategy to meta
would be a logical step to take, perhaps also with a rename to "new
ideas" as that was what it effectively became.

WereSpielChequers

> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 00:08:31 -0500
> From: MZMcBride <z at mzmcbride.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness
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> Risker wrote:
>> As far as I know, since always, Casey.  One must log in separately there;
>> going from another WMF project, one's login doesn't follow.  One of the main
>> reasons for the creation of SUL was so users could go from WMF project to
>> project without having to log in again; partly for ease of use, but also
>> because there are an awful lot of editors who don't want to link their
>> usernames to their IP addresses, even accidentally. Especially now that most
>> experienced users take SUL for granted, it's a barrier to participation when
>> a link to a WMF project seeking broad participation requires editors to log
>> in again, and hope that someone else hasn't created an account with their
>> username first.
>
> You're both right. In a literal sense, strategy.wikimedia.org doesn't work
> with unified login. That is, when you log in through en.wikipedia.org or
> elsewhere, you won't be logged in to every place where you have a Wikimedia
> account of the same name. (Though I think if you log in through
> strategy.wikimedia.org, you get the cookies for that site and the other
> sites, but you still wouldn't get the cookies for other *.wikimedia.org
> wikis.) A lot of people say "unified login" to mean you don't need to
> re-register your account and that your account will be linked to a global
> account of the same name, not that it will be automatically logged in,
> however. That was Casey's confusion.
>
> This particular issue is the subject of bug 14407.[1] Whether it's a real
> barrier to entry, I don't know. The people involved in content work really
> don't need to be sucked into the kind of place that strategy.wikimedia.org
> is, in my opinion. :-)
>
> MZMcBride
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14407
>



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