[Foundation-l] Greg Kohs and Peter Damian
Virgilio A. P. Machado
vam at fct.unl.pt
Wed Oct 20 04:44:19 UTC 2010
Brigitte,
I agree with you. You raised some very good points.
Sincerely,
Virgilio A. P. Machado
At 03:47 20-10-2010, you wrote:
>________________________________ From: Austin
>Hair <adhair at gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Foundation
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>Re: [Foundation-l] Greg Kohs and Peter Damian On
>Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Nathan
><nawrich at gmail.com> wrote: > If it pleases the
>moderators, might we know on what basis Greg
>was > banned and Peter indefinitely muzzled?
>Greg Kohs was banned for the same reason that
>he's been on moderation for the better part of
>the past yearnamely, that he was completely
>unable tto keep his contributions civil, and
>caused more flamewars than constructive
>discussion. Peter Damian is only on moderation,
>and we'll follow our usual policy of letting
>through anything that could be considered even
>marginally acceptable. We really are very
>liberal about thisotheerwise you wouldn't have
>heard from Mr. Kohs at all in the past six
>months. I'm sure that my saying this won't
>convince anyone who's currently defending him,
>but nothing about the decision to ban Greg Kohs
>was retaliatory. I'll also (not for the first
>time) remind everyone that neither the Wikimedia
>Foundation Board, nor its staff, nor any chapter
>or other organizational body has any say in the
>administration of this list. I hope that clears
>up all of the questions asked in this thread so
>far. It is not about defending anyone but about
>the fact that the "I know bannable when I see
>it" theory of moderation is unconstructive and
>leads to dramafests. The next ban is the one
>that will likely cause a real flame war. I
>suspect *more* people would be on moderation if
>any sort of objective criteria were being
>used. The lack of explanation over this bothers
>me so much because I suspect that you *can't*
>explain it. It seems to be the sort of gut-shot
>that hasn't been thought through. Moderate more
>people based on real criteria, rather than how
>you feel about them. Birgitte
>SB
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