[Foundation-l] Fwd: Has Wikipedia changed since 2005?

Peter Damian peter.damian at btinternet.com
Mon Oct 4 08:33:42 UTC 2010

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Goodman" <dgoodmanny at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Has Wikipedia changed since 2005?

> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Peter Damian
> <peter.damian at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>We were talking
>> about very aggressive editors who know absolutely nothing of the subject,
>> and drive away specialist editors.
> I see an equal proportion of very aggressive editors among the expert
> as well as the non-expert editors.  Expertise does not necessarily
> mean a devotion to expressing all significant views and presenting
> them fairly. I have been involved a little with some   articles in
> Wikipedia written by fully-credentialed experts --in one case with an
> international reputation and distinguished academic awards-- devoted
> to expressing their own peculiarly one-sided view of the subject.  And
> there was a group of articles with several experts of established high
> reputation each taking the position that the other ones  were
> hopelessly wrong.

The irony is that this does not happen in Wikipedia in my experience, with 
philosophy.  I know all of the small group and they get on very well and 
support each other.  The problem is the aggressively belligerent non-trained 
editors who drive the specialists away. I think the best way to convince you 
of this is to get testimonials.  There is one here


I could get plenty more.

>>I am not qualified to judge articles on philosophy on my own
understanding of the material. I must ask whether you are so very sure
that academic consensus will endorse your views on the articles
mentioned that you would be able to write a replacement article, and
ask for an RfC on it, and convince outsiders  by reference to multiple
understandable authoritative sources?

On the quality of the articles, even Wikipedia's own grading system shows a 


Any professional philosopher would support my view.

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