[Foundation-l] Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening

Noein pronoein at gmail.com
Mon May 10 18:14:19 UTC 2010


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On 10/05/2010 07:56, Elias Gabriel Amaral da Silva wrote:
> 2010/5/10 Marcus Buck <me at marcusbuck.org>:
>> J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov hett schreven:
>>> I have a problem with basing it on IP addresses. As a non Muslim in a Muslim
>>> country, why should Wikimedia decide that *I* cannot see Muhammad pictures
>>> but that it is perfectly OK to show it to a Muslim in Germany / France
>>> wherever. I think the world has moved on a bit from the one country, one
>>> religion / set of values / morals.
>>>
>>
>> You are of course right. But what is the alternative? The only
>> alternative is not basing it on location so everybody sees the same.
>> That's like "one world, one set of values".
> 
> The alternative is to not censor, in any circumstance, to any kind of
> audience whatsoever. I must confess I find this particular alternative
> brilliant.
> 
> It is imperfect, as any other form of freedom of thought and
> expression. But other options are more imperfect, not less, in my
> opinion.
> 
> I think some projects (like the English Wikipedia) already reached
> consensus on this issue.
> 

I don't understand exactly your thoughts. What happens to someone who
wants to navigate Wikipedia or use Commons but doesn't want to reach
offending (according to his/her personal sensibility) pages? If this
person wants a protecting tool, what is your answer? You give me the
impression that you're saying: ignore him, let's let him be offended.
In this case even if you're think you're right theoretically, you're
alienating part of humanity from the big project that is reaching them
all. Creating negligently a strong feeling of rejection with a few month
of obliviousness to their culture can take dozen of years to repair. I
don't think the topic should be solved so lighly and bluntly. But maybe
I'm misunderstanding you.
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