[Foundation-l] Jimbo Wales acting outside his remit

Chad innocentkiller at gmail.com
Sat May 8 13:18:41 UTC 2010


On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Adam Cuerden <cuerden at gmail.com> wrote:
> I, of course, agree that the Félicien Rops image is offensive, and we
> have no reason to needlessly offend by putting it in articles where
> less-offensive images are equally encyclopedic. However, it's also by
> a notable artist, and, as such, can be used to illustrate his work,
> the subjects you mention, and other similar cases and thus shouldn't
> be permanently deleted. without discussion, as part of an effort to
> make Commons entirely child friendly which has little support outside
> of Jimbo himself.
>
> The point is not whether images should or shouldn't be used to
> illustrate specific articles, the point is that Wales has decided, on
> his own, that all images that are at all pornographic should be
> deleted, and has gone about deleting images by notable artists, and
> when challenged, stonewalled completely by saying that no discussion
> of his actions would be heard until he had finished his disruption,
> and all the images were already gone.
>
> I'm not one of Wikipeda's porn editors. I didn't know these images
> existed in advance. But I worried that the new policy would be used to
> censor art, and, it turns out, was completely and totally correct.
>
> -Adam.
>
>>Well, do you need a picture to explain a dildo? File:Franz von Bayros
>>016.jpg is more or less art, but File:Félicien Rops - Sainte-Thérèse.png
>>which is used on three Wikipedias to illustrate the use of a dildo has
>>some real problems with being offensive to Catholics (Of course Japanese
>>or Chinese Catholics don't matter, but they do). Much better to use a
>>photo of the woman using a dildo or at least an eye-witness report
>>published in a reliable source. The image could, of course, be used
>>appropriately to illustrate an article on caricatures or something about
>>anti-catholicism.
>
>>Fred Bauder
>

Adam can you please stop starting a new thread for every new point
you wish to make. More threads just increases noise.

-Chad



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