[Foundation-l] Copyrighted maps and Derived works from copyrighted sources.

Cary Bass cary at wikimedia.org
Wed Mar 31 21:09:46 UTC 2010

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jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:45 PM,  <WJhonson at aol.com> wrote:
>> In a message dated 3/31/2010 1:30:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com writes:
>>> (e) use the Products in a manner that gives you or any other
>>> person access to mass downloads or bulk feeds of any Content,
>>> including but not limited to numerical latitude or longitude
>>> coordinates, imagery, and visible map data;
>>> ---Well if I import all the points from wikipedia, it is
>>> equivalent to such a mass import.>>
>> Yes we have examples where a legitimate copyright holder
>> over-extends their claimed rights.  Regardless the USGS provides
>> these exact same lat/long points.  If you're concerned than use
>> them.
> I have imported all the geonames for the areas that I am interested
>  in. That is not the issue.
> The issue is the location of things that are only visible using
> high quality sat images from googlemaps and co. We don't have those
>  positions for many of the locations and they are only available
> from non free sources. Because wikipedia does not have a problem
> with them being submitted in mass, it makes the total collection in
> effect not usable for openstreetmap.
> Now once you start to include points from google mapmaker it even
> gets more interesting.
> The content that is not available freely are things like business
> listings, touristic points of interest, locations of interesting
> buildings etc. I am sure there are a large number of those points
> that are not available from any free source, except to go there
> with a gps and record the location itself.
> I think the best thing would be for wikipedia to really think hard
> about this, and to make a policy that ensures the locations and
> maps are also free from copyright issues so that we can use the
> information in osm. Given the incredible user base, you might be
> able to collect more unique points and have the truly usable. If
> wikipedia were to call out to people to do some real mapping work
> and not just copying points out of questionable sources, it would
> be a great benefit to the total human knowledge.
> thanks,
> mike
Use of Google Maps website to derive data does not convey
copyrightability.  That would be like saying that Adobe has copyright
of a graphic design you created in Photoshop, wouldn't it?

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