[Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

[Excirial]

*STOP*

Two-third of this thread is already related to off-topic bickering about
mailing list regulations and whatnot. Move that stuff to a separate threat
if you wish to keep discussing it, but don't keep derailing a sensible
thread further. Thank you.

*On-Topic*
We left off arguing with the suggestion that Google might be willing to
share its search data. I know that there is a search trends
page<http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends>that details the top
searches, but it seems to be US only (And the Malayalam
wiki's target group isn't the US). However it does demonstrate that Google
is willing to share such data, and i presume that changing country-specific
data will not be overly sensitive either. Maybe they already list it
somewhere? If not, it may be worth a shot to contact Google about it. Though
it would be more convenient to have a list that regularly updates over a
static one-time only list as interests can change over time

~Excirial

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hoi,
> This is not a problem. We use the numbers that we have. We could ask Google
> for such numbers.. They might even be willing to share them with us.
> Thanks,
>       GerardM
>
> On 12 June 2010 12:02, Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > It would be indeed an useful or at least interesting tool for all
> > Wikipedias. Though, many readers go to Wikipedia by a Google search, I
> > don't know what that eventually would mean for the search results as
> > we will see them.
> > Kind regards
> > Ziko
> >
> >
> > 2010/6/12 Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>:
> > > Shiju, just FYI, tool kit can be used by anyone for translation. In
> > > fact, it's good to use because (if you choose the option) it will go
> > > toward improving future machine translation capability for your
> > > language, thus expanding possibilities for monolingual speakers of
> > > your language. In addition, "machine aided translation", in which an
> > > article is translated by machine and then corrections are made, can be
> > > a much speedier yet still accurate way to create articles.
> > >
> > > -m.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Shiju Alex <shijualexonline at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >> This topic came up while we were discussing about Google's translation
> > >> effort. Google/Google employees are using Google tool kit to translate
> > >> English Wikipedia articles to many of the Indic language Wikipedias.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> We are definitely more interested if Google translates these user
> > required
> > >> articles than translating  the English wiki articles about all the
> > american
> > >> pop stars (For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Gaga). Now
> > the
> > >> issue is, we don't have such list to give to Google/Google employees.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> +1. This would be a SUPER useful tool for all Wikis.
> > >>> -m.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Shiju Alex <
> shijualexonline at gmail.com
> > >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > Recently I had a discussion with one of my fellow Malayalam
> > wikipedian (
> > >>> > http://ml.wikipedia.org) about the creation of new articles in
> small
> > >>> > wikipedias like ours. He is one the few users who is keen on
> creating
> > new
> > >>> > articles *based on the requirement of our readers*. (Of course we
> > have
> > >>> many
> > >>> > people who only reads our wiki)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > During discussion he raised this interesting point:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Some feature is required in the MediaWiki software that enable us
> to
> > see
> > >>> a
> > >>> > list of keywords used most frequently by the users to search for
> > >>> non-exist
> > >>> > articles. If we get such a list then some users like him can
> > concentrate
> > >>> on
> > >>> > creating articles using that key words.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Of course, I know that this feature may not be helpful for big
> wikis
> > like
> > >>> > English. But for small wikis (especially small non-Latin language
> > wikis),
> > >>> > this will be of great help. It is almost like* creating wiki
> articles
> > >>> based
> > >>> > on user requirement*.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I would like to know your opinion regarding the same.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Shiju
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